"Astralis should disband", PARIVISION will make playoffs, and how we'd fix the Major.

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Jack.
Samuel.

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I've done it.
I've fixed the major I have

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made.
It crazy to get.

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One might now go fuck yourself,
right?

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So here's the thing.
Get one in early.

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Being.
The major, and I feel like we've

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said this at this point on the
podcast, it's pretty bad.

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Like it's full of best of ones,
which is shit free back-to-back

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Swiss stages is a bit heavy and
like it's quite a lot of bad

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teams isn't there really?
It does seem to be a lesser

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standard of counter strike up
until stage 3.

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Yeah.
And you know, another thing I

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don't like, I don't really like
this whole like, Oh well, they

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might be in for a tough opening
game because this team's going

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to, you know, they'll come into
the stage warm because they've

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already played a stage.
I think that's kind of bollocks.

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It makes it leads into the
belief that teams aren't playing

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when they're not at events
should.

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I mean, I know officials aren't
the same as.

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No, but it almost certainly is a
factor though is the problem.

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Someone should check the
numbers, but yeah, it probably

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is.
It definitely contributes to the

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BO1 issue or the BO1 issue
contributes to the warmer.

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But this correlation, there's
correlation.

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But anyway, anyway, I've fixed
the major, we don't have to

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worry about it anymore.
Tell me.

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Tell me, sensei.
OK, I'm going to say senpai, but

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sensei's better.
Yeah, OK, anyway, right.

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So because, you know, Valve
likes money and stickers make

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money.
It doesn't.

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We got to keep it as 32 teams.
So how do we work around that?

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Well, I think we make 814 GSL
groups, which for people who

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aren't like format nonces,
that's like the IEM format.

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You can't call them.
That no, I can.

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I've done it now.
Format is fine.

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Nonces is Bible US.
Same difference.

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Yeah.
So it's where there's like the

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winner of match and the losers
match and the seeding match and

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all that bollocks.
Decider matches just with four

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teams instead of 8.
So your eight groups you you

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select the teams in the groups
by creating 4 pots of teams,

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seeds one to 8916 so on so
forth.

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You then randomly draw from each
of those pots to get the four

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teams.
So there is a risk of a group of

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deaf, which can be fun, and it's
pretty fair and equal.

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You're not just guaranteeing
like 1 and 9 go through, or

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inferior guaranteeing 1 and 9 go
through because they play

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whatever.
The equivalent Worst team, Yeah.

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Yeah.
It's you doing vRS or is it like

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team or how do you want to?
Do it.

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It would have to be vRS, but I
think you keep in some form, you

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keep the region split of the way
it is right now.

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So it would just be like, you
know, seeds 128 but of of how it

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is now.
So like pain which?

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Is global ranking right?
Yeah, like pain would probably

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go in lower than they are at
this major, for instance, but

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there's guaranteed
qualification.

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Well, yeah, because I think
that's fine.

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I don't think you should do the
stages based.

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I mean, stages suck, but yeah, I
think.

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Yeah, yeah.
Cool, cool.

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Cool.
Being the best North American

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team doesn't mean yeah, sure.
So you can turn the group stage

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into four days, it's four days
and then you're out with.

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That broadcast?
Well it's it's 4 beer freeze a

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day across 2 streams so it's the
same as it is at the moment for

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you know, the 1st 2 days of each
stage.

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Opening matches one day, winners
matches the next, losers matches

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the next and then decider
matches the next.

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You then move into the playoffs,
right where the winner of the

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group would play second place in
another group etcetera,

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etcetera.
Playoff 16 teams double

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elimination all the way through.
So when you go through, so when

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you go through and the arena
days start with the upper

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bracket final and the lower
bracket semi final that would be

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Friday.
So you are losing an arena day,

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but maybe for a better format.
It's generally cheaper to have

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the arena for last days.
I don't think you make more

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money by having it open on
Thursday, honestly.

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Well exactly.
And attendance is often not as

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great on a Thursday.
Then the Saturday is the best of

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five lower bracket final and the
Sunday best of five grand final,

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where the advantage for the
upper bracket team is they get

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to ban both maps and pick the
first map.

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So currently the major something
like 21 days, I don't know how

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many game days.
If you make the round of 16 two

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days instead of using AB stream
then you get 14 game days.

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If you remove B stream entirely
you get 18 game days.

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But thoughts?
Is it better than the current

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system?
It seems like less of a slog

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yeah and kind of the kind of
bullshit Swiss BL1 nonsense.

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The the removal of BL ones is is
obviously good.

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I think also third place games
are kind of they're a necessity

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now that vRS ranking matters.
But obviously you you remove

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that by having the third place
team decided by the low bracket

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final right.
You don't actually need to have

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that third game yeah more time
for DJs and stuff on on the

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grand final day, which is why
everyone really wants and show

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matches and and nonsense like
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I don't hate it.
I just think, are we getting

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less counter strike?
It feels like we're getting less

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Counter strike, which might not
necessarily be a bad thing.

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Maybe because maybe in a better
format?

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I think like whatever we can do
to get BA Threes is to play

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right they they are.
Like.

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And I I don't like the the
randomness crowd.

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I think that's kind of cope.
Like you should just be who you

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have to play.
I agree that low tier team, less

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tape.
Maybe they have a gimmick map

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like like Aurora's Anubis for
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Right.
Para visions over the front.

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Yeah, like it's probably too,
too easy if you just can get a

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good video that they don't
expect, right.

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And obviously going to be a one
Like it's especially, you know,

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is it is it 132?
The band, the way the bands

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work, I think.
Maybe.

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But you're banning, you'll ban
your perma, they get to ban 3

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maps.
They could could put you in

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quite a tricky spot.
I do like the idea of the the

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sort of veto advantage you get
for winning the upper bracket

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final.
That's.

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Interesting, I think that would
be really good, right, because

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like so I was I was I was
thinking about it earlier.

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I was thinking about an example
for like a best case, right, So

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spirit play ancient a lot
vitality.

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It's their perma ban.
Now imagine spirit go through

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the upper bracket, Vitality go
through the lower bracket.

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Spirit can ban 2 maps.
I think their permanent might be

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inferno.
They can ban that.

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They can ban a map they don't
like playing.

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They can pick ancient first map.
In theory they go one O in the

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final, so.
You.

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You.
Yeah, You went by yourself.

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A opening wouldn't pick.
That's cool.

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Yeah.
So especially if Vitality have

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also gone on a lower bracket
run, so like from lower bracket

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round one or lower bracket Round
2, imagine how much better of a

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narrative it is if they then win
that major like that.

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That's sick.
It's better than what we have.

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Right now, it does make the fact
that one team is going into the

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playoffs, into the final
wounded, should we say which it

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kind of, it writes A narrative
for you for a team to be the

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underdog, right?
Even if on paper that they're

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matched or that maybe they're
the better team on paper.

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And I think like stories and,
and and narratives are kind of

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more important than the games in
terms of like the the view

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experience.
Well, they make the games

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better, don't.
They exactly right, so I like

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it.
I I was going to ask something

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but I can't remember what it
was.

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Come back to it if it comes back
to me, but I like it.

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Right.
OK, well on the basis that you

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are an idiot, should roll the
intro and talk about some

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counter strike.
Let's do that.

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OK, so we've spoke about how
majors are POO and how we can

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make them good.
So let's talk about POO teams at

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the POO major.
Do you want to start with MRPR

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or Flyquest?
Good coinage.

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Flight quest going three O one O
3.

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That's funny.
And what we have to remember is

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stage one of the major is
actually just the RMR.

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So they might be all like it's.
It's the.

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Yeah mate, it's the pickup.
Look lads, we've come from

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Australia, we've fucked your
pickups again and they've gone

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O3 in this it where it actually
matters so.

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Yeah, now they've fucked like
questions by being.

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Like like your three over stage
1 does not count much like

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numerous players time on liquid
and or Nip.

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Yeah, I don't know why you guys
let us into thinking you were

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good.
People are like oh, as was

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independently a good system.
I see they did have hard games

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if they're not good flash bangs.
OK, they had an army.

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This is.
What they had, they had a shot

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list.
So they they lost teams they

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should have lost too.
But well, I can't say they

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shouldn't have been.
They shouldn't have gone 03

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because they they probably
should have actually.

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So I think maybe maybe we were
all just a bit excited from

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Stage 1.
Yeah.

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OK.
So, so this is what I wanted to

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say, right.
So fly quest went Freo in a very

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fortuitous manner.
They beat legacy that like.

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Good, good age.
We know Legacy were pretty

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disappointing after that.
They played what imperial and

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fluxo in a 2O?
Was it red canids?

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I think it was imperial, right?
Fluxo was the 2O game.

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No, yeah, Fluxo was the 2O game.
Sorry.

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So they only beat Brazilian
teams, are you?

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Making an agenda here.
No no, I'm just saying they only

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beat Brazilian teams.
Their reward though.

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Their reward though for going
Frio, and this is a stupid thing

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about the seeding is to play the
number one seed we like.

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It's in the same way we'll talk
about Navi more in detail later.

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Navi's reward for going Frio is
playing fucking Furia.

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This is stupid.
It is is the advantage of more

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days, more days off and more
practice days.

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Is that better than getting
maybe an easier opening game?

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Well, it just in the next stage.
It just adds to like the

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randomness.
It just adds to the randomness

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of fucking best of ones like
because then you get these like

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like really, if you go free O,
you should play the the 8th

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seeded team, the 8:00 and 8:00
and 9:00 play each other and

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seven and 10 play each other and
and you go down that way because

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of like, what's the point in?
Going So what?

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One play 16.
Yeah, like what's what's the

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point in going fucking Frio?
Like do you want to go Frio and

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place and play Furia or do you
want to go free to and play

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pain?
I don't wish I'm fucking picking

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but I might even throw a couple
games.

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I know I'll win the best 3 so I
it's just it doesn't seem

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beneficial at all.
So kind of our.

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I'd like to look back on on some
of the previous majors and see

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like, yeah, like maybe a team
who won it, did they go 3 O in

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the previous stages?
Because I I don't that's how he

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might have right, but not at
Austin.

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But is there constant
correlation to to getting an

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easier playoff run?
Like Paris would probably come

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to mind because of some of the
teams that were in those

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playoffs.
Vitality Free owed in Paris, but

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they start in the legend stage.
Spot example isn't it?

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But there's.
Not enough data on it, but I

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just think.
Like to start in legend stages?

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There's a pattern there, right?
Like who did they?

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So they they played G2 Ants and
Monty.

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But well, G2 kind of is a good
example though.

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G2 went out one free.
And what did they do at the

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prior stage?
One free.

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Well, presumably if it's the
same season they went fucking

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free out.
Jenny, can we check?

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Is it?
Do we get to be allowed to see

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that?
Yeah, yeah, Frio, Frio,

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congratulations lads.
You play the best teams in the

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world like this is.
Why is this a thing?

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Because that just adds to the
random.

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Like part of me wants to be put
my Elliott hat on now and say

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like, oh, well, you should if
you if you're the best team, if

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he's the best team, we should be
in front of her, you know, beat

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the best teams or whatever,
whatever his silly point is.

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But you shouldn't have a worse
draw by.

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Doing well.
Going through and also

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historically 3 O teams tend not
to be the ones you would expect.

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Well, exactly.
Looking at stage 1 especially,

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right like like generally, you
know, pickams are an issue.

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I'll get I'll talk about that
later, but it's very hard to

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call a three O team with the
randomness of beer ones, right?

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Yeah.
Like you kind of have to be just

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like using drugs to make your
decisions, I think to actually

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have a chance of.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think Diamond now is something
like nought .1%.

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Like that's a problem in my
opinion.

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Well, this is if it becomes like
A to be a serious prize, yeah.

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Like maybe it should be like 3%
of people get diamond should be

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nought .1.
No, like, it should be.

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It should be hard, but it also
shouldn't be like, impossible.

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Yeah, like, like people who get
dumb and don't, it's not because

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they know about the game.
Do you know what I?

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Mean in most cases, Well, in
virtually every case.

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Yeah, right.
We, we, we should move on to

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MIBR.
But before we do, Charlie, just

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pull that Maui snake tweet back
up now.

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This is ugly, isn't it?
So for for people who aren't

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actively watching, Vexlight was
the highest rated player in

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stage one with a 1.64 rating.
In stage 2 he was the lowest

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rated player with a naughty .55
rating.

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But that is crazy.
That's so.

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Like that, that definitely
sucks.

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Like that's probably a one in a
million start line as well to be

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honest.
But like he massively over

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performed in stage 1.
Like.

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He he's not suddenly good
because he had like, I don't

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mean ourselves because he's
better than me, but like he's

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not very good suddenly because
you had a good stage.

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Like you played four maps that
you did like you, you went to

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played well for four maps and
like role wise things.

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And then you play against teams
that are good and teams that can

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counter you just running at them
and then suddenly you're not

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good.
Going from the highest rate to

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the lowest rate is is really
awful.

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That's devastating.
Especially nought .55, that is

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fucking brutal.
Yeah, but I mean, it's like this

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did just kind of get banned,
didn't they?

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Yeah, a little bit, Yeah.
The Navi game especially.

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Was like you're not really at
least in the close game.

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You could probably, you could
probably even go positive or

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like a .9 in the close game.
You know what I mean?

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If you're getting shit on, it's
a it's a lot.

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It's a bit harder to hold.
You hold your hold, your hold,

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your round is what I'm going to.
Say well done, Jack.

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You got there.
You got there, buddy.

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I've just been hit in the head
for like 2 hours so I'm I'm not

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feeling great.
Excellent.

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Excellent MIBR.
Another team that got hit in the

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head repeatedly.
That was that was your segue.

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You're welcome.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I mean, this, this is the

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definition of hey, man, can I
copy your homework?

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Yeah, Don't make it obvious, but
the guy just vomits all over the

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paper instead.
Yeah, I mean they are like team.

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Free and sunny free climb.
Yeah, climb like.

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Something like he's not even
that good, but he's better than

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this team.
Well, he shows like he shows

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flashes, right?
And this is the thing with Climb

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where it's actually like.
His name makes me laugh on it

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just sounds like I know it's his
surname but it makes just it's

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just a silly name.
It might be harsh.

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It's an interesting choice isn't
it really?

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Because I know they've done
pretty well domestically.

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Fucking suck internationally
though, and if you're looking to

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get this Academy open seems
really impressive because I know

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for a fact, by the way, before
some pirates G2 were considering

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just promoting him that like
you're looking for him to get

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some experience outside of your
Academy team And yeah like

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granted he's played at a major
now that is good.

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You send him to Mr. Did he play
it?

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Did he play at the major?
Did he play?

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Well, I mean he was connected to
a server.

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He went to the old tower and
yeah, plugged his keyboard in,

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but.
But like you send him to MRBR,

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is he not generally going to be
playing a lower standard of

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matches than he would in EU?
Like it was there, not like.

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There's a team that, sorry,
you'd need an offer.

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Yeah, right.
Like.

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Like she from off to game a
Legion, yeah.

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Anyway, they seem to hate their
oppas, but yeah, well.

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Exactly.
Like I've got a little more to

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say about MRBR.
To be honest, they're just not

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very good.
I'm just hoping Sani Insani ends

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up on a real team one day.
Like it seems that with your

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flexors and your red canids and
your legacies, like there are

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reasonably good Brazilian teams.
I know a lot of them have

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performed at this event but
like.

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Performed by going out.
Well, stage 1 I meant, but yeah.

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Fluxo actually won a game.
Congrats lads.

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They won two games, they were
going to they were, but he's

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obviously way too good for MRBR.
But obviously Furia aren't going

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to be looking at him anytime
soon though, so yeah, his

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English is good.
Get one game when he's done.

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Get him up phase anyway.
Honestly, with fucking help.

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And yes, anyway.
One three teams fanatic not

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talking about yet.
Fuck off Blame F was shit but no

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we're not doing it and I just
don't want to.

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Maybe you should have kept
you're really impactful,

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aggressive rifle.
Anyway, Aurora, we're going to

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talk about Aurora.
Fucking hell.

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This makes me very happy.
I don't know if it does make me

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happy, actually.
So, you know, you take the

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floor.
They they played horrible CS

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they did, they played not like
individuals shit in the bed

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generally right?
Like apart from bacterias, like

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nonsense game against MA that
you've got there.

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They they're fundamentals, their
rotations, their their excuse.

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They looked so distorted.
It's like they were all speaking

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a different language.
It felt they were fucking

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appalling.
And the series against Power

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Vision.
If you can just hover on that

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Mister Producer 2211 game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, across, down.
Yeah.

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Bloody.
Hell.

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Yeah, not, not great across
across the board.

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Zantar has had an especially bad
Teesside in that as well.

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Yes, maybe went O in 11.
I think Majors, I let Corrigan

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get away with being completely
handless because he as much as I

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think he needs to pack it in, he
could generally call teams to

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play well.
They're just like me doing that.

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He's a fucking coach.
He's he's he'd be better off

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than the coach lot and you'd
have fucking bot Kev.

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I don't know why I brought you
that into that.

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Any thought?
I just and you know, I don't

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mean to disrespect the guy.
I'm sure he's brilliant, but I

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just, what the fuck are they
doing?

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I.
Just this, this team just has no

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identity anymore.
There's there's nothing

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interesting about them.
Like at least when when Nubis is

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in the pool, you're like, Oh
well, they'll probably win an

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Uber.
So the series gets interesting.

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Unless they play the modern
goals, but I just like I don't.

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I don't know what you do for a
roar anymore.

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Like, OK, well, this is the
thing, this is the thing.

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This is the thing, this is the
thing.

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There's a reason.
No, here's the thing.

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I'm there.
Sorry, I'm doing something

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different.
Here's the shit.

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Here's the shit.
That's not what I'm going to

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say.
There's a there's a reason you

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walk 6 and Santaras fucked off
from Turkish national teams to

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play in fucking big and mouse
and hell raisers and shit other

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teams because Turkish national
teams are fucking shit.

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There's not enough.
Like you've finally found five

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players who can actually all
help the mice at the same time.

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Space soldiers for fun.
It did fucking nothing.

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Engine and powers on the same
team are fucking appalling.

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Appalling.
Not even counter track players.

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I know how much you hate these
lot because you're not even

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being particularly emotive.
You're just like this is this is

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like.
This is clinical precision hate.

396
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Yeah, you're just being quite
cold here.

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I just, I just, and, and I mean
this like with Major and

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Wickedia, both players I've
actually had really pleasant

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interactions with.
Oh, Majors, lovely.

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Like he's actually nice.
They're just so this isn't

401
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,600
personal, like if you're
watching, you know, love you,

402
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but please play the game because
this is just, it's just sad.

403
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And I just think like, no, no,
no, no, I'm not done.

404
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Oh my God, having one gimmick
map that got you reasonably OK

405
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and then got you in this
insulated circuit where you get

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every event and then you use
that to like, fuck you.

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I could do a trophy and then you
won that event and you were

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like, do what we need to do, do
what need to do, just not adapt

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00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,040
at all.
Do nothing new, OK?

410
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They've had the same playbook
for two years.

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All right, my turn.
I'm going to I'm going to try

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and dissect a little.
OK, best of ones.

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They beat M80 because Ricardi
has popped the fuck off.

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Fine.
This is this is what you need

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00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,720
sometimes.
It's not reliable though, is it?

416
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,640
They've then played Phase.
Can't build a team around that.

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00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Yeah, All right, shut up, Marta.
They've then played Phase and

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Jacob said he's one good game
ever, which is really

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unfortunate, actually.
Like what?

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What do you meant to do?
Jacob's decided he's got hands,

421
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and there's one round from Jacob
in that game where he's, I can't

422
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,200
remember if he's Teeside or CT
side, but he's on, he's on

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short.
He just fucking shits on three

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of them.
But Dunk would be impressed with

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himself if he pulled off that
round and fucking Jacob's done

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00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,720
it.
Jacob's fucking useless, right?

427
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,640
So they lose that, They then
play paravision and they play

428
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fucking Jane in a best of one on
overpass.

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Like Major was asking to lose
that game.

430
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,440
Like Daddy's stupid from them.
And Paravision also played like

431
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,040
kind of bad that game as well.
Yeah, they aren't even good.

432
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And I like I know Parliament are
a slow burn team and they'd like

433
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to they they use tend to get all
around from them.

434
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Yeah, sure, exactly.
But like, bloody hell, man.

435
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,080
Yeah, but then when you lose to
Australis and we're not going

436
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,320
through the game, we're not
doing it.

437
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,720
Fucking hell, how would you lose
into Australia?

438
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:27,560
They are shit and device
absolutely fucking dunk at this

439
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,200
major.
Yabby's not good.

440
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We're not.
We'll get to them, right?

441
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,880
So my question is, and I'm going
to answer my own question a

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little bit first, or I'm going
to set the scene for my question

443
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,360
a little bit first.
What the fuck do you do?

444
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,120
Because Zantara's past 3.
Months thermonuclear device but.

445
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,200
But is that because he's a bad
orphan now or are you suggesting

446
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,200
to Aurora?
All of Aurora, just remember.

447
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,320
Like Zam Tara's pass Premium
says like a 1.2 device.

448
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,760
He's been pretty yeah, thank
you.

449
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:09,720
He's been pretty good but he has
a lot more quiet games now and

450
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040
when he does they fucking.
It's shades.

451
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,600
It's shades of Nico.
It's a little bit Nico.

452
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,880
Yeah, but he's also getting on,
right?

453
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,000
Like I think he's already might
be 29.

454
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:26,760
I don't know right Jotter, he's
not that great, is he?

455
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,840
He's not that great.
Your only option to sign anyone

456
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:35,120
is X filed.
You've got an IGL that is not

457
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,640
that great.
So what do you do?

458
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,680
Do you try and make Centaurus
Nigel?

459
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,160
Do you try and bank on X filed
be an IGL because you can't do

460
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,720
what's it?
We're not doing all the IGL.

461
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,440
It's fucking ridiculous.
Like do you try and get?

462
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,440
I've got to say, all party, I
was the former of the best team

463
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,800
in the world, but no, that all
party I decided to stop hoping.

464
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,640
Like, what do you think?
I've heard that X5 was probably

465
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,680
going at one point, obviously
still in for them at Cologne I

466
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,960
think it was or an event.
I don't know.

467
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,640
I don't know, it's kind of a
shit team.

468
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Again, they just shouldn't.
This team should be doing CCT

469
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,240
and and fucking fragging out
fears that it's that tier of CS.

470
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Honestly, honestly like like
they're just not playing.

471
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,160
They are.
They're not play the game to the

472
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,320
level that is expected of teams
at the fucking major.

473
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,680
If this was stage 1, I wouldn't
care, but this is stage 2 now.

474
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,160
We're like we're meant to be.
We're out of out of diapers.

475
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040
We're in pull ups now.
I mean, we're meant to not shit

476
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,800
ourselves all the time and
that's all they did well.

477
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880
I think so.
I think if we go back to post

478
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Austin shows, when Overpass came
back, I think we'd said then

479
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,600
like Aurora are going to
struggle in the second-half of

480
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,720
the year and lo and behold,
Aurora have struggled in the

481
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,720
second-half of.
The year I just, I just never

482
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880
put any stock in them actually
being good looking at like as

483
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,200
we've said multiple times, they,
they benefited from the scene

484
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680
being poor.
Yeah, from a lull in competition

485
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,920
and performance from everybody
else.

486
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400
And like, that's fine for a
little bit.

487
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Now it's boring and horrible.
Producer Charlie has fucking.

488
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,240
He has produced now.
I think producer Charlie might

489
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
have missed the fact that Tabson
is no longer an IGL because it

490
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,240
never really worked out.
I'm big after the online era

491
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,760
stopped and Gobby wasn't
actually doing all the calling.

492
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:44,000
But anyway, he said minus Major,
minus Jotter, plus Tabson, plus

493
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Crimbo, I'm fucking in.
I'm down, fuck it, do it.

494
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Moving on, right?
Ty Lou.

495
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040
We're not going to talk about
them that much because it makes

496
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,080
me sad.
I love Ty Lou.

497
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Ty Lou is so much fun.
Gee had his moments.

498
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,720
Jam Young had his moments.
The problem is and Young.

499
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,960
High price.
Other people have some moments.

500
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,520
The problem is attackers.
Fucking rubbish and this team

501
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,000
makes so many mistakes like they
can be good but it's on two

502
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,800
points they actually Start
learning from their fucking

503
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,080
mistakes and attacker like boy
he just needs to get in the

504
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,000
fucking bin don't he?
Again, it's just like he's not

505
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,880
even calling it's.
Only last three months .67

506
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,560
right?
Point one.

507
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,920
No, we're not.
Wait.

508
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Oh, you've put on the majors
filter, right?

509
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,240
Can you remove the majors filter
.82?

510
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,040
And he's not even calling.
Man, that's still terrible.

511
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,920
That is so bad.
Yeah, I just fuck it.

512
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,320
We're not talking about him
anymore.

513
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,320
Get someone from Limb Vision.
Fuck off.

514
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,200
OK, two free teams, Jack,
because they're a thing.

515
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Who's you want to talk about
first?

516
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Two of those two free teams
troll.

517
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,800
My pick comes, so I want to talk
about.

518
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200
I've got a lot to say about Nip,
so we'll do them at the end.

519
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Let's start with.
Them with MAT, right?

520
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,400
OK.
I want to ask you a question

521
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760
about MAT then.
Please ask me a question son,

522
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,800
I'll give you an answer.
So we know for a few years, bar

523
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,840
one event right at the start of
CS2, complexity now passion UA

524
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,640
pretty poor.
They still have the same core,

525
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,640
but they were poor the entire
time while being insulated.

526
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640
One of the teams that was
actually protected by the

527
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,640
partner system.
They got to play a lot of Tier

528
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320
1, and despite playing a lot of
Tier 1, you always got the same

529
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,440
oh we're inexperienced bullshit
out of them.

530
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Just just a whiny team did
they've just got like not the

531
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,880
players, but the energy of the
team.

532
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,080
It's just, it's just bitch
energy you.

533
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,840
Know what I mean?
But anyway, if M80 we're in that

534
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,560
position for that length of
time, how much better do you

535
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:18,080
think M80 would be now than like
passion UA core slash

536
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,880
complexity?
Because I really think they

537
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:30,920
would have far surpassed them.
I think they're probably they're

538
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840
probably a better team than
passion UA.

539
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080
They're just like I just said,
they just haven't had the

540
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:43,040
experience right.
I still think there's hex has

541
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600
been a good addition for sure.
I can just.

542
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,720
I actually believe in him on
this team.

543
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,160
I always thought he was fucking
rubbish.

544
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,200
He's pretty solid on this.
Team, I think he was just a

545
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:59,840
victim of of evil really wasn't
he of evil supercomputer, but

546
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080
pretty surely has pulled up Stew
DK.

547
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,000
I'm not sure a victim of Stewie.
Is that the point we're making?

548
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,520
Let's go with that.
What are?

549
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,560
You doing you're.
So confused, but you better show

550
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,880
this on camera at this point
because we are baffled by what

551
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,240
you're doing.
Audio viewers, we're just

552
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,400
looking at his his he zoomed.
He zoomed in on Stewie's fate.

553
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,720
I'm so confused.
People less than they might see

554
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,040
in a while anyway.
Yeah, they probably would.

555
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,400
I'll be honest, though, that
stage 2 was just and expected

556
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,680
return to form after a
reasonably impressive stage 1,

557
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160
right?
They did.

558
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,840
They did what Flyquest did.
They sold.

559
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,040
They sold us a dream by playing
well and they didn't regress to

560
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,240
complete dog shit.
But they they also could have

561
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,240
made it through this stage as
well.

562
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,440
So it's so it's a little bit
disappointing using to Aurora,

563
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,880
who we've just started our
pants.

564
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,920
It's it's a shame they'd be a
strongest really convincingly to

565
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600
be definitely.
I think they shouldn't have lost

566
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,400
to Imperial though.
I think the Imperial is really.

567
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:19,480
Good.
Yeah, I don't know, like I'm

568
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,719
disappointed, but I still really
like the core.

569
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,639
I still think there's a future
for this team.

570
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,800
I mean, there's a future on Face
Clan, yeah.

571
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Well, yeah, I think like, you
know, if you phase, you keep

572
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,920
twist, you fuck the rest of them
off, you fuck off, you just buy

573
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,480
the rest of them.
No Keep Swisher.

574
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,880
Which ones you get rid of then
you keep twist.

575
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,239
You got to keep twist and faze.
You're not getting rid of like.

576
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,600
Get rid of the Germans.
Let's go.

577
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Let's go American.
Which all be getting.

578
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,280
Junior.
Move on.

579
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:17,440
No no no, it's Australis time.
We're talking about Australis, a

580
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:23,240
team with absolutely 0 future.
So Australis went two free.

581
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:30,200
They lost to some shit teams.
OK.

582
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,120
No they lost to Nip which is
fine.

583
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,320
They lost to who else did they
lose to?

584
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,040
MAT?
They lost.

585
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,440
To MAT and.
They lost to Liquid, so maybe

586
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,960
they didn't lose to some shit.
They lost to a shit team.

587
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,600
They.
Played very, very badly against

588
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Liquid, however.
They did, yeah.

589
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600
And.
They got dismembered on Nuke,

590
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,960
which was their pick.
And and and.

591
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Sorry, I know you're trying to
speak but.

592
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,800
But no, it's fine.
Hoaxy again is one of those

593
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,200
players where it's like, oh,
well, he's good, ideal.

594
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,280
So it's fine for him to be
completely fucking useless in

595
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,680
the server.
I'm tired of this.

596
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,120
I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of us giving a free

597
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:18,040
pass to just not not that much.
Ever not plug your mouse in and

598
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,720
just stink it up and be like,
oh, I mean, he's fine.

599
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,720
A call.
Good.

600
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,520
It's fine when you've got stars
device put in what like a nought

601
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,240
point?
Fucking skeletal and the shade

602
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,920
of shadow of device.
Yeah, device put in like a

603
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,040
nought .9 free.
Skeletal is yabby for those who

604
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,760
didn't didn't clock it but.
Nought .9 free rate in I think

605
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,200
it was in the major fucking shit
really bad but so so this is.

606
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,240
You best players stay man.
I'm just, I'm just like.

607
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:50,680
Actually the best player.
I'm not even.

608
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Stay, I'm just depressed by
australis now.

609
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,280
I've hit the breaking point of
australis where the entire time

610
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,040
I've been a part of TLDR I'm
like ha ha making australis joke

611
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,800
anytime it's possible because ha
ha they're fun now.

612
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,560
It's just fucking depressing
man.

613
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,400
Like it's not even beaten at
their horses.

614
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,040
It's like the horses decomposed
and it's just filling the room

615
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,080
with stent.
Yeah, it's just, it's a really

616
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,040
sad.
Sad.

617
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080
What do you do?
Where'd you go from here?

618
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,800
You have to blow it up.
But.

619
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,400
Well I think realistically they
all got paying their salaries

620
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040
this month so they probably all
blow it up quite soon.

621
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,480
But but what do?
You, Janice Gunderson, Master

622
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,280
class.
What do you get out of blowing

623
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,640
it up?
Genuinely, Because.

624
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,840
Because like, OK, the two best
Danish teams of all time, Gleaf

625
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,920
was the IGL of one of them and
also the star.

626
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,880
Cadium was the IGL of the other
and also the star.

627
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,160
So who's the best IGL now?
Hook See.

628
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Like this available, sure, but
prison's just gone to heroic, so

629
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,720
yeah.
Well, this is the thing also

630
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:52,880
like as far as can never not be,
as far as can't not be Danish.

631
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,560
You don't need an author because
device is fucking rubbish now.

632
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,800
Like he is just got the counter
has left him.

633
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,640
It's sad but it's happened.
So there's two roles you need to

634
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,400
fill.
You need fucking shush because

635
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,520
shush is fucking money and you
can't get in because Nip aren't

636
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,680
letting go of him.
Blame F and stare.

637
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680
They're probably about equal
honestly.

638
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,040
Like stare house massively
improved.

639
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,680
Credit to him.
Yabby.

640
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,920
He's not that guy.
Stan coming back makes the team

641
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,040
worse.
Hooks.

642
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,680
He needs people who can frag.
I'm not sure Tessa's improves

643
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,160
them.
So like what do you do?

644
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,760
Like they're never going to be
good.

645
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,520
No, they're just, they're just
fought right.

646
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,600
And this is the issue when also
like when you've signed

647
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:51,200
basically every Tier 1 player in
your region and like ruin the

648
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,520
careers of most of them, like
your recruitment pool.

649
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,280
A lot of them went on to do
nothing right, like a shot.

650
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,280
That's pretty balls to that
peak.

651
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:04,680
But I've always said that that
when they signed stabby, they

652
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,840
signed the wrong duo because
Shushan test says elevate teams

653
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,200
flaws massively as a duo.
They're they're players who who

654
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,400
make it even better.
Starring in the Abbey get

655
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,640
highlights and now neither of
them do that either.

656
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,360
Make Stan Menopa, that's your
best bet without spending money.

657
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,320
But even then, he's his pants
stare like I do have faith, but

658
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,840
I just I just don't think he's
like he's not that guy,

659
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,040
unfortunately, like I think he's
pretty good, but he.

660
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Think he maybe has too many like
just OK games to be a star.

661
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:47,160
Yeah, to do is precisely YEAH,
plays available to coach, get

662
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,440
glave, let him build a project.
Maybe there's something fun

663
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,120
there, but yeah, I don't know.
It's every time we see a glimmer

664
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,400
of like there's always a glimmer
of hope this team like this on

665
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,360
matters here.
It's like, oh, maybe they're

666
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,960
going to be all right for a bit
and they show like have a few

667
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,800
good games.
You're like oh, OK, great.

668
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,440
And then they're like, oh, and
now we forgot how to become a

669
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,520
strike again.
It's just like it's being the

670
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,240
same vicious abusive
relationship for for for like

671
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,280
since the.
The, you know, the dynasty team

672
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,200
dissolved.
Really.

673
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,320
Yeah.
I don't know if the device is

674
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,440
carrying a curse from from what
happened to Nip.

675
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,240
Maybe, maybe it's that, but
they're just fucking bans man.

676
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Should we talk about Nip Seen
and she brought them up?

677
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,160
I'd like to because.
This is your depression moment

678
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,680
now.
Yeah, I mean.

679
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,600
Trauma dump, Jack.
Trauma dump.

680
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:45,240
I mean, we'll be here a while.
That's the Patreon special again

681
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:51,560
like going 2O great your two O
matches against phase.

682
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,800
You should have won the first
map you should have won the

683
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,960
second map.
You're like OK final fit

684
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,240
paravision.
You have 4 match points on dust

685
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:09,320
2 that you that you choke, then
you lose another time Second

686
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,000
map.
I can't remember what it was,

687
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,880
but I'm I'm happy to see him
back in the major and I think

688
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,720
stage 1 was showing that, OK,
this team actually knows what

689
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:20,760
they're doing.
They're like they're actually

690
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
good and they are playing like
really sounds.

691
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,560
Yes, I said last last week, I
think it was about about your

692
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,560
jokes.
But again, this isn't an

693
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000
individual player thing.
I think they're just I spoke to

694
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,120
spray, who's their assistant
coach about this.

695
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960
And without going into too many
details of what saw what he said

696
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,680
and stuff like he, the main
thing was that they seem nervous

697
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,920
to choke so they sort of panic
and trying to close the rounds

698
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
in the later rounds of the game,
which you'll see like the Jane 1

699
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,160
V 2 was just an absolute
misplay.

700
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,920
He kills the guy Gandalf and the
short guy.

701
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,600
Like he should never be able to
get to the Gandalf guy because

702
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,920
the short guy is covering him.
Do you know what I mean?

703
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,880
He should never be able to take
that shot because of the short

704
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,200
player.
I.

705
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Mean wrinkle could have been,
you know, actually shot him.

706
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,400
Well, there's that, there's
there's that as well, right.

707
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,400
But like that, I think they're
just whenever it's, it's the

708
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,880
chance to win, they're so scared
of making mistakes.

709
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
And I wonder if that's a snappy
thing because maybe snappy puts

710
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
this pressure and I think you
kind of have to respect his

711
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,880
pressure.
I don't like, I'm not saying

712
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,800
this is a negative thing, but I
think there's probably, he

713
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,120
probably has expectations to be
like, OK, guys, let's fucking

714
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,080
close this out.
Do you know what I mean?

715
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,320
And you're like, oh, I don't
want to be the guy.

716
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:39,520
It's like if you're a ramp
player on nuke, you can't, you

717
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,640
can't lose around that Russia.
You've got to, you've got to get

718
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,800
one.
Do you know what I?

719
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,720
Mean, which is crazy because
I've never seen you get one of.

720
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:51,160
My favorite, yes, there we are,
but it's it's it's this this the

721
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,360
pressure kind of thing.
I think captain obviously didn't

722
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
have the greatest series as well
against power vision.

723
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,160
And then obviously, like I said,
I was getting beaten up for a

724
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,720
couple hours during the free
match game.

725
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,640
But it seems Nip, Oh, they sort
of had it.

726
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,160
Worse.
And Free match are a fine team

727
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,000
but I do think this Nip should
should have beaten them like

728
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200
generally.
OK.

729
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,800
No, no, right.
But also.

730
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,080
But no, the bigger point is Nip
should never have been in the 2

731
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,120
two game.
They should have been in space.

732
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,160
Fine, but I'm going to stop you
now because you care about Nip a

733
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,560
bit too much.
You ask me.

734
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:36,280
No, I know, but it makes you, it
makes you look at it wrong,

735
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,240
right?
Nip are going to be seriously

736
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:43,880
kicking themselves for how they
got knocked out of this major,

737
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,480
but a reminder at the start of
the year and if we're like 175th

738
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,880
in the world, their goal for the
year was to make the.

739
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Major, Major.
They did that.

740
00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:00,640
They got through a stage great.
They were also just so

741
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,440
inexperienced outside.
Yeah, I think I, I probably have

742
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440
better higher expectations as a
fan of whatever you want to say,

743
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,680
right?
Like I feel that's fair, but.

744
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Outside of snappy and shush the
the team like they've got like

745
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,840
one decent room between them.
You can't expect them to to just

746
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,080
be closing stuff out.
And I know some dickhead now is

747
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,360
going to be like, oh, but what
about paravision?

748
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Paravision or they also play in
a James system that prevents.

749
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,040
Them from prevents you from
choking so.

750
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,680
Much like SO.
And you've got dust on behind

751
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,880
you, like gun to your head if
you fuck up so.

752
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,840
So I think like, I don't think
it's a negative.

753
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Like I, I can't look at it and
be negative about it because I

754
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,200
think.
No.

755
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Yeah, there's there's so many
positives from this run.

756
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,120
They were so close to winning
these games and you need to make

757
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,000
mistakes in order to grow one of
the most.

758
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,760
Important things.
About.

759
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Experience more though.
Yeah, yeah.

760
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,320
But one of the most important
things about experiencing

761
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Counter Strike is getting
knocked out.

762
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:16,520
Look how many times Australis
their core at least choked

763
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,680
before they became the best team
in the world.

764
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,400
Look how close Liquid got before
they won a Grand Slam.

765
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Like all of these things, you
need these things to happen.

766
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Carrying and losing a major
final.

767
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,120
All of these things need to
happen in order for you to like

768
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,920
in most.
Cases, yeah.

769
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520
In order for you to like do
great.

770
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,600
So if Nip change a player or
not, if they genuinely, if they

771
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,680
went on a fucking playoff run at
the next major, it wouldn't

772
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,320
surprise me because.
Like, yeah, I, I think.

773
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,800
These things are closing, games
out will probably just be gone,

774
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,720
hopefully.
And I think like.

775
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:59,200
Lesser complexity.
I think you can agree as well

776
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,960
like they they played just like
really good good CS like like

777
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,360
structurally and.
And.

778
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Individually, like like they
just played kind of like in a

779
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,800
nice way, like it was fun to
watch.

780
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,680
There's clearly a game plan and
that's quite nice for a team of

781
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,480
unexperienced players generally
to kind of play in a a well

782
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,840
structured way and not just be
this, you know, the sort of Tier

783
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,760
2 fragging house kind of thing.
So you put your points right.

784
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,800
I think it's just seeing the way
they lost their the 2O and two

785
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,040
one games and that they could
I've gone 30, you know, these

786
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,080
made the second stage going 202.
Three is just is just shit,

787
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,200
especially when the games are
that close.

788
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Do you know what I mean?
And I think obviously there's a

789
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,720
snappy tweet here, tweet here
snappy saying that pretty much

790
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:49,480
the best team in the major that
they met at the major.

791
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640
That's unfair.
It's probably probably right if

792
00:46:52,640 --> 00:47:00,360
you look at the score as well.
But yeah, I mean, you wouldn't

793
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,600
have faced them if you'd won
either of the two prize series,

794
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,880
right?
So it is what it is.

795
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,680
But those, I think your point is
right.

796
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,760
Like those rounds, they lost the
clutches and the final rounds of

797
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,000
the games.
Like those are mistakes that

798
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,960
hurt that much.
You don't make them again, you'd

799
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,400
hope.
Yeah.

800
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,960
All right.
Well, we're going to run the ad

801
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,560
break now and then we'll come
back.

802
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,920
We'll talk about the free two
teams potentially in a little

803
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,800
bit of detail.
So yeah, we'll see you in a SEC.

804
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,680
So Jack, do you find it hard to
keep up with all the news and

805
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,560
Counter Strike?
I do, I took a weekend off and I

806
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,320
came back to six new IGL's, 3
retirements and apparently

807
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,680
Malvi's water boy got picked up
by a top 20 team.

808
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,880
Right, that's why I've been
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809
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,440
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810
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,000
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811
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812
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,440
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813
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,200
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Yeah, quick hits of news, spicy

814
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,240
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815
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,720
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816
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817
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,120
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818
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,080
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819
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,880
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820
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821
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,080
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822
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,920
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823
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,680
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825
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826
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,680
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827
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828
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,720
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TLDR you don't have time to read

829
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,200
everything you still want to
sound like you did.

830
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
OK so 3 two teams.
We're going to start with the

831
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,560
ones that went through first.
That's passion UA.

832
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,120
This is the best version of them
we've seen I think.

833
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,640
I know I saw Thorin tweet about
how JT is being under

834
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,800
appreciated as caller.
I think that's a very fair and

835
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,960
true point.
Always has been.

836
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,160
He's just had to deal with a lot
of shit players, particularly

837
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,160
players that just couldn't kill
people that JT had flashed for

838
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:21,200
him.
Fang, Yeah, Fang Grim, by the

839
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,560
way, Yeah, Fang's rubbish.
Grim.

840
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:32,040
He's actually becoming a very,
very good player now and like.

841
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,680
Yeah, I mean, this is this is
this is Triumph Grim, right?

842
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,760
This is the Grim liquid thought
they were getting. 1.18 rate in

843
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,240
is is really nice, but the
player I actually wanted to

844
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,400
shout out that's not.
Nick, surely?

845
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,720
Fucking believe I'm saying is
Nick's.

846
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,480
Nick's doesn't look lost
anymore, but he actually just

847
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,520
doesn't look lost anymore.
He's just a, this is a little

848
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,600
guy and he, he's just like a
yeah, he looks like just every

849
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,680
American teenager.
Do you know what I mean?

850
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Yeah, he's just, he's just, he's
not, he's not that guy.

851
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:13,160
He's never going to be that guy.
No, but he's he's probably were

852
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480
of his of his face on the team
now, so.

853
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Considering him and she's at XI
were brought in at the same time

854
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,920
and that guy's gone, probably
probably is.

855
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,040
Yeah, she's XI was also really
bad, but they both look shit at

856
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,320
that time.
So, so yeah, I think yeah, it's.

857
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Yeah, I mean.
They deserve to go through like,

858
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,200
like, I don't, I don't really
like this team.

859
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,760
I don't really think they're
very exciting.

860
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,880
No, I.
Don't care but they played good

861
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,720
CS they went through.
I think Jade like you said JT is

862
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,160
under appreciated.
The rest of the team I don't

863
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,720
forget Halzer get him on another
team but I just don't.

864
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,720
I don't really give a fuck on,
sorry.

865
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,240
Just under Holzer, Do you
remember when we used to say

866
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,320
that Holzer was like the budget
brokey?

867
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,120
What the fuck is brokey to
Holzer now?

868
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Because he's nowhere fucking
close anyway, Passion your way.

869
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,720
They're going to get banged out
in stage 3.

870
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,480
Let's move on Liquid.
What a fucking messy Team Liquid

871
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,640
are.
They are so sloppy.

872
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,400
They're so horrible to watch.
Play Counter Strike.

873
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:21,480
Their final round in the game
against Tyloo yesterday, there's

874
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480
there's only Finna.
They're they're in banana,

875
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,000
there's 16 seconds 3B free and
they just go, oh, we're going to

876
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,680
go away and there's two players.
It might be the freebie 4

877
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,160
honestly, but there's two
players on a they've run into

878
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,840
the site and ultimate just has
been good.

879
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,280
This stage just gets to
otherwise they fully fully from

880
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,440
the game.
Outrageous.

881
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,880
No, he shouldn't have got one
like like I tweeted about this

882
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,800
because I just said I think I
said something like there's no

883
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,600
way that's like the run they
would like how they win it or

884
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,280
whatever.
And just it's just because it

885
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,520
works doesn't change the fact
that it was an absolutely

886
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,920
fucking atrocious idea it.
Was also only worked because

887
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,280
which Tyler player was it?
I can't.

888
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,680
Probably a Tyler player.
It was probably attacker.

889
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,760
No, it was even worse.
They tried to throw a grenade

890
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,400
off the default box and it just
got stuck in the box because

891
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,240
they threw it like on the run
side if you bounce, if you

892
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,160
bounce back it fucks with their
entire push and they never get

893
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:22,560
the.
Bottle.

894
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,040
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

895
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:28,640
That that is like equivalent to
the history round against phase

896
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:33,040
when like, you know, if he just
drops the smoke, he gets the you

897
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,760
know, the they they absolutely
thrust A charless, which is

898
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,720
which is better and more what
we're expecting to see from this

899
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:44,960
liquid probably.
But there's a very real world

900
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,320
where they win in that charless
game.

901
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Yeah, so this is this is the
last thing I want to say about

902
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,040
Liquid, right?
I fucking hate them.

903
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,800
And I don't hate them because I
hate them.

904
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,840
I hate them because they might
just shoot their way to

905
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,080
playoffs.
They will not do it through good

906
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,760
counter strike.
They are not a good counter

907
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,280
strike team, but they might just
shoot their way into playoffs

908
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,080
and that will really piss me
off.

909
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Yeah, I mean, Elise had some
some games to be fair.

910
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,160
And I think he just, he's
capable of doing that right.

911
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:33,000
He is bold though.
An American, so I'm going to

912
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,960
stop saying nice things about
him.

913
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,840
Yeah, two things I don't like.
I do think Ultima has been very

914
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,480
good.
There's a treat from treat.

915
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,720
There is a treat as well.
Always a treat.

916
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,120
There's a tweet from Striker
here.

917
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,640
So this is the ultimate that I
keep hoping we see more of more

918
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,360
often because he clearly has it.
Not just often, which is true.

919
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,320
There's that classic round, I
think it was a cattle column

920
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,600
where he's out bent for Mirage
and just just shits his pants

921
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,480
and just throws the round.
The one with sponge screams.

922
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,720
So what are you doing?
Just fair enough.

923
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,400
But also like he obviously just
does have the source sometimes

924
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,880
to be pretty good.
So bit of consistency from him,

925
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:21,360
liquid, probably a little bit
more exciting, but just don't,

926
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,200
just don't care.
No, really.

927
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,040
And finally three DMX.
I'm honestly surprised it took

928
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,120
them so long to make it through.
The upset fanatic was was poor.

929
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Yeah, they're just not bad, are
they?

930
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,560
They're not great, but they're
just not all bad in any sense of

931
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,120
the word.
They're no worse with gravity or

932
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,880
Jelly, and they could honestly
make playoffs like I just.

933
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:56,960
The thing is with 3D Max is I
don't even dislike the way they

934
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,120
play.
I like watching Mac and play.

935
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,040
I think, I think Thorin made a
really good tweet and he said

936
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,040
there was CS GO team playing
CS2.

937
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,280
And I think that's such a
perfect analogy because they

938
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,520
play in this very French, sort
of like prime French CS days of

939
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,320
like pretty structured, a lot of
kind of spawn calls, a lot of

940
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,320
set pieces I'm going to make.
I could make a football

941
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,800
comparison, but I don't know
nothing about it.

942
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:32,040
But I'm sure you can, Sir.
It's nice to have a a noticeable

943
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,880
style to to your team.
I think that's always cool.

944
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,200
It's you know, like art art
Furia had a style or or they had

945
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,720
a a look, should we say right,
That's nice.

946
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,760
The issue is that styles in MMA,
they say styles make fights and

947
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,280
also in NCS, right, styles can
affect games, right?

948
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,120
If they might beat all the teams
in the playoffs bar one because

949
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,080
of a style match of if you get
the team of the on, you make

950
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,560
less of a run right.
So they're a fun team, they're a

951
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,400
good team.
I'm upset that a bit Nip, but my

952
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,240
pick comes for fucked because
MAT lost.

953
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,120
So I don't, you know, not really
caring that much, do you know?

954
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,600
What the problem?
Is and I think it's also

955
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,160
testament that Snappy says
they're the best team they've

956
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,360
faced so far.
I think that's valid.

957
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:21,960
Is the problem that they're
French?

958
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,440
Is that we're?
Going to say it is that they're

959
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,560
French.
Yeah, All right.

960
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,240
Three one teams, three one
teams.

961
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,160
We aren't going to talk about
these that much because like.

962
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,120
It's the power mission, Jame
major #2.

963
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,320
OK, look, they should have lost
a nip held on despite a limited

964
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,320
experience.
Honestly, like that's just a

965
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,880
testament to Jame.
It is just a testament to Jame.

966
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,880
He held his nerve in a clutch
and his system just he's good at

967
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,680
preventing fuck ups.
He just is.

968
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,560
I don't like certain parts of
it.

969
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,000
I don't like the hill by fucking
Rd. armour 57 and say 3 and half

970
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,520
grand when the rest of his teams
have M fours and concede the

971
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,440
round just to buy an open the
next round and die first like.

972
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,920
That did happen multiple times
by the way, where he would just

973
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,560
go for an opening, pick the next
round and die.

974
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,040
Awesome.
He wouldn't even, sometimes he

975
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,200
wouldn't even go for the opening
pick.

976
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,800
You'd just get walked up, up up
on him, fucking die.

977
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Like, I'm not overly big on
that.

978
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,760
I'm not too big on that.
But I just, it's hard to

979
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,400
criticize Jame, isn't it?
I don't like him.

980
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Well, it's good.
He's fucking.

981
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,360
Good.
I don't dislike him again it's

982
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:36,360
like you can dislike the system,
but it clearly works right.

983
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:40,320
That's different to doing what
liquid did, which is the wrong

984
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:46,200
thing and it working James does
James system eliminates doing

985
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,680
wrong things generally.
Do you know what I?

986
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,120
Mean.
And it's why like why they're

987
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,680
getting Roy so close because
generally like the T sides are

988
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,200
they kind of let you do what you
want on Teeside because they

989
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,960
know the Teeside will just
suffocate you and impose our

990
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:04,720
will.
Should we say?

991
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,120
Do you know what I mean?
That's kind of the premise.

992
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,920
It's another style of CS, which
I think is interesting to have

993
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,640
Imperial.
They like the reverse fly quest.

994
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,880
I just don't really understand
how they went through it.

995
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:27,160
Well, they look absolutely Pooh
in the Stage 1 and then they

996
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,000
look pretty good.
I mean, OK, they actually didn't

997
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,400
really beat that many good
teams, but they played pretty

998
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,200
well.
I'm happy.

999
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,440
For them, I'm not going to
criticize them.

1000
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,000
I'm happy for them.
I like, yeah, we were saying it

1001
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,880
last week.
I like Vinny.

1002
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,240
I like Zach.
Hello.

1003
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:50,680
Yeah.
I try great, I'm just I'm just a

1004
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,440
little confused like.
That's enough said about them,

1005
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,040
honestly.
Jim is just.

1006
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Actually, actually good though.
Bait.

1007
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,120
It's bait.
Bait.

1008
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,000
It's.
Quite good, yeah.

1009
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,640
They always look so sad and
confused when they're playing.

1010
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,640
They all look really upset at
everything that happens.

1011
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,280
They just have this horrible,
all the players have this

1012
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,960
horrible expression.
It's just like like they're just

1013
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,520
being hurt.
But they're legit really good.

1014
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,200
They're a really good team.
Kansas always the truth that you

1015
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,080
just need a haircut.
Hat trick has been pretty decent

1016
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,640
Nipple is is is fine.
They're a fun team.

1017
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,920
They're they're a fun team.
Yeah, I've I've I've.

1018
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Can't really criticize them.
Good players.

1019
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,440
They they are, and they win
games pretty suitably, I would

1020
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,240
say.
Yeah, but that's that's kind of

1021
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,840
it.
They're just good.

1022
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:48,400
It's just, yeah, fair, fair Fox.
They they do just improve at

1023
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,800
these events every time they
play at them.

1024
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,960
The three O teams, then Navi.
Everyone had that in the pickams

1025
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,200
I think.
Yeah, I just, there's not much

1026
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,960
to say about Navi honestly,
because it's just like, well

1027
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,080
done, you did.
What you were meant to do.

1028
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,800
What you were meant to do, I
mean.

1029
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Something the Casa said a few
times.

1030
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,760
Was there a Stage 3 team?
They're in Stage 2 and I think

1031
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,280
that's very accurate, to be
fair.

1032
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,320
Wonderful has played
phenomenally, by the way.

1033
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,920
Which is very reassuring.
That is the one thing worth

1034
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,160
saying.
It's reassuring.

1035
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,360
It's also.
Oh well.

1036
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,280
I'm going to say
uncharacteristic because he's

1037
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:33,720
kind of been an issue at times.
He's played phenomenally.

1038
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,760
He's looked untouchable.
He's looks so confident in his

1039
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,040
fights.
He's hitting shots he shouldn't

1040
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,400
hit and this and the shots he
should hit, he always hits them.

1041
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,360
So he's playing excellently.
My cars.

1042
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,920
He's also just just just good
and they seem happier and

1043
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,600
Smilier, which is a promising
sign because this team has

1044
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,360
looked miserable the last all of
this season.

1045
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,040
Honestly hope it continues.
I can see the making playoffs.

1046
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,360
Yeah, I think, I think the
expectation should be playoffs

1047
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,440
now, honestly.
They've got a horrible opening

1048
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,160
game, like we said, like they've
got fuel Wish yeah, won't wish

1049
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,960
Fury on my worst enemy, but
like.

1050
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,080
But I will say it was wonderful
like this.

1051
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,840
You've got you've got a big rock
to sling at Goliath.

1052
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,120
You can pitch, you've got you've
got wonderful who's really good

1053
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,480
at shutting down offers, going
up against Molladoy who actively

1054
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,840
looks to shut down offers.
It's kind of a fun, fun fight,

1055
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,040
right?
It, yeah, it's something to keep

1056
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,360
an eye on.
But let's talk about phase,

1057
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,720
though.
Now, I've got another point

1058
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:50,440
about the major format.
The presence of best of ones as

1059
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,320
long as the two team, as long as
the A-Team faces the right

1060
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:01,600
teams, means that a team can go
through those best of ones

1061
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,840
playing just one map.
And that's what phased it.

1062
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,760
They played just two twice.
And I don't, I don't really

1063
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,160
think that's good, to be honest.
Where are we challenging the

1064
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,480
team's map pool to find the best
of the best here?

1065
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,720
Like, I don't.
I don't like that they got.

1066
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,480
I don't.
Know if did.

1067
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,680
I'm not sure if you said this or
some of the cast has said it.

1068
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:25,560
Honestly, it's all been a bit of
a blur, but Dust 2 is probably a

1069
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,040
comfortable pick for both teams
because it's generally a very

1070
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,240
5050 map.
Most protocol that said that.

1071
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,000
Yeah, most tier one CS players.
I've heard a lot of those too.

1072
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:44,440
You know it's dog shit and
congest in ABO one.

1073
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280
It's like the most neutral map
where there's not a lot of

1074
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,480
strategy really.
It's pretty solved.

1075
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:56,480
Everyone plays kind of the same
way, so it's a pretty safe pick

1076
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,160
for everyone.
Like it's kind of like we're

1077
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,880
playing AB1, Gentleman's
agreement.

1078
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,960
We'll play on the very fair map,
you know what I mean?

1079
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,920
Yeah.
I mean, I disagree with your

1080
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,600
point that there's not a lot of
strategy.

1081
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,320
I think there is.
It's just maybe.

1082
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,640
Nothing.
No, but nothing new is what I

1083
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:12,920
mean.
Like no one's showing.

1084
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Everything kind of linear
compared to.

1085
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,280
Yeah, but but I mean, but I mean
there's there's a from long, A

1086
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,960
from short, B from tunnels, B
from mid.

1087
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,400
It's cut there.
That's kind of four finishes to

1088
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,520
every round, should we say?
Right.

1089
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,480
It's like a let's say J OS so
much, but that's one finish.

1090
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,960
Yeah, I just.
Rubbish.

1091
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,480
Yeah, Will's worst spear, which
is how most long, long executes

1092
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,040
look actually just really floppy
and limp.

1093
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,080
But yeah, they also should have
lost an IP.

1094
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,560
They should have lost an IP.
Yeah, yeah, which is I mean

1095
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,480
phase are a loved one, right
Like the same is true for Liquid

1096
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,960
where they could just go to
playoffs now and.

1097
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,000
It I just think that would be
bad for them.

1098
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,040
And it and it wouldn't surprise
me.

1099
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,680
And yeah it would be bad for
them because like they've made

1100
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,880
it through the stage of Jacob
having a pop off game, Jacob

1101
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,400
having one decent map in the
BO3, and Brokie having a good

1102
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,480
game.
These are not things you can

1103
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,120
rely upon.
So honestly they could go like

1104
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,160
O33O32.
Don't see them being a free one

1105
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:34,280
team but I'd put money on them
being one of those free records

1106
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,120
if I was guaranteed to turn a
profit.

1107
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,680
That's like the most non
committal thing ever.

1108
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,320
But yeah, sure, they'll either
win or they'll lose.

1109
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,440
That's my.
No, no.

1110
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,520
But what I'm saying is, is
they'll either blast through the

1111
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,640
next stage, fucking crash out of
it, or they'll like scrape

1112
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,040
themselves through.
Yeah, yeah.

1113
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,280
The issue the issue is.
Is who's their Who's their

1114
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:07,360
opening game?
Charlie Faves will be going O

1115
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,400
free in the next stage.
Congratulations, Carrigan, on

1116
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,320
your retirement.
You've had a fantastic career

1117
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,680
and that's all we're going to
say about phase.

1118
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,560
Yeah, should we?
Do with the simulator now

1119
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,160
should.
We do some simulating.

1120
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,480
Not the Pickles back anymore
because no one checked that one

1121
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:31,880
coin.
Thank you Val for ruining

1122
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:38,480
everything right anyway.
So it begins with Fury versus

1123
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,880
Navi.
Let's not fuck about Jack.

1124
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:48,280
No Fury, yeah.
Fury vitality phase, let's not

1125
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:56,160
fuck about vitality Falcons B8.
Three months ago I would have

1126
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:03,960
said B8, but Falcons should
really just win that Mongols

1127
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:10,520
imperial.
I'm a bit scared to say the

1128
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,640
Mongols.
Yeah, me too.

1129
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,560
I think this might be one of
those funny games that's not

1130
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,760
actually that all that good, so
I'm going to say Imperial for

1131
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,720
this one.
Yeah, yeah, let's whack an

1132
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,360
Imperial for that one.
Mouse power efficient.

1133
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,960
I would say mouse are a slow
starting team sometimes.

1134
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,520
Let's whack in paravision.
Fuck it.

1135
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,880
I like this honestly it's a
matter if we're right anymore

1136
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,160
because I can't get diamond so.
Yeah, don't give up.

1137
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Let's.
Just let's just lie.

1138
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,400
You know, I could also see Navi
beating Fury, but we're not

1139
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,680
doing that.
Fury are going to not drop a

1140
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,480
map.
At all?

1141
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,400
Come on.
Ever again.

1142
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Spirit of beating liquid not
fucking about there don't.

1143
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,920
Have faith on that one.
G2 will beat Passion UA and 3D

1144
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Max will beat cane Gaming.
The French guys are beating the

1145
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,880
pan, the bread.
Fury Are we going to beat 3D Max

1146
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:19,080
Vitality Paravision Falcons?
Will be here.

1147
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:27,360
Spirit will beat you too because
it means we get really fun games

1148
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:28,920
in the two O.
That's why I'm going for it.

1149
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,800
OK, fine, fine.
I kind of want to say G2 win it,

1150
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:40,680
but fine if you say so.
Do you haven't really been good

1151
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,080
since London?
Yeah.

1152
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,240
All right.
A.

1153
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,600
Little bit.
Mongols, passion your way.

1154
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,160
I would be very upset if the
Mongols didn't manage to win

1155
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,080
that one.
Yeah, I'm going to give that one

1156
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,040
to the Mongols.
Mouse versus liquid mouse.

1157
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,680
Sorry mouse.
Yeah, I don't think Liquid to

1158
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,520
get started in that game.
I think bait will be pain.

1159
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:10,600
I think so also.
Yeah, Navi phase Navi, Navi.

1160
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,680
OK, furious.
Your spirit, wonderful Bush

1161
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,399
brokey, by the way, that that's
coffee, baby.

1162
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:22,920
Hydrogen bomb, you know exactly.
Furious Spirit.

1163
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,560
It's furious, furious, furious
go for you.

1164
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,760
Vitality Falcons.
Falcons.

1165
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:42,560
Yeah, yeah, I'm done with that.
Yeah, I'm not confident on that,

1166
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,560
but I'm down with that mouse
beat Imperial Paravision, beat

1167
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,160
the Mongols.
Fire.

1168
01:08:50,560 --> 01:09:02,080
G23D Max data 5050G. 2.
Yeah fine Navi bit Navi.

1169
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,600
Yeah, Phase beat Passion UA in a
in a BO3O2 game.

1170
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,240
I thought you said they're going
O3 mate.

1171
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,800
Yeah, but now I've seen they're
playing fucking Passion UA and

1172
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,720
Passion UA are going go free.
Liquid pain.

1173
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,600
My God.
Yeah.

1174
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:26,200
Liquid, liquid Yeah.
Vitality BG2.

1175
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:33,680
Correct Spirit, be much you
don't believe, but I do.

1176
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,399
I don't want to say Mouse beat
Spirit, Charlie.

1177
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,399
It's up to you.
You decide.

1178
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,680
Oh, he's sticking with Mouse.
Rogue.

1179
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,960
Navi versus Paravision.
Yeah.

1180
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,760
Yeah, I'm OK with Navi beating
Paravision.

1181
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,400
Yeah, yeah.
Liquid beat imperial I think.

1182
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,400
You'd fucking hope so.
They beat the Mongols.

1183
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,440
I'm going to say yeah, bait beat
Mongols.

1184
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:09,970
Get baited.
There's a world where with 3D

1185
01:10:09,970 --> 01:10:12,250
Max, get it done, you know. 3D
Max beat face.

1186
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:15,130
Oh yeah, I'm going, I'm going.
3D Max beat face.

1187
01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:17,890
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shot that one over Charlie.

1188
01:10:18,530 --> 01:10:26,770
Just just on on the X beat Y Nip
nearly beat face and 3D Max

1189
01:10:26,930 --> 01:10:33,000
trounced Nip so therefore bomb
them bigger fish, yeah.

1190
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,800
Spirit beat 3D Max.
Yeah, sorry guys.

1191
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,400
Oh my God, Jane might be going
to the playoffs.

1192
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,440
I.
Think he is?

1193
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,560
I don't think liquid, I think
they're so sloppy they don't

1194
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,880
have it in them to beat
paravision.

1195
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,960
No ultimate.
It's going to just like go back

1196
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,480
to caveman brain and Jane's
going to like shine his holy

1197
01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:55,320
light on him and make his brain
explode.

1198
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,760
I think Bait might be going to
playoffs as well.

1199
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,720
And I'm happy with that,
honestly.

1200
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:09,160
Yeah.
So our playoffs teams are

1201
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,120
furious.
Falcons photology, Navi Mouse.

1202
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,600
Nothing crazy there.
That's fine.

1203
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,080
And then power, vision, spirit,
bait.

1204
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,800
I really don't dislike that.
I mean I think we dislike the

1205
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,840
last one we did and it turned
out fucking shit, but I really

1206
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,200
don't dislike that.
This might be one of the majors

1207
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,520
of all time.
This might be one of the majors

1208
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,920
of all time, and I think that's
the perfect, perfect thing to

1209
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,440
end it on, Jack.
Yes, it is.

1210
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,320
We'll be back next week.
There might be a third person

1211
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,800
here.
There might not be.

1212
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,560
Maybe no one will be here.
You'll have a podcast by

1213
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,640
yourself, dear viewer.
I'm going to think about a rope

1214
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,440
tied to the ceiling and me
dangling from it.

1215
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,960
Like a rope swing.
Like a zip line?

1216
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,440
Yes, like a rope swing or a zip
line.

1217
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,240
Fabulous.
Yes, I've been Sam.

1218
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,320
I have a Twitter.
He's been Jack.

1219
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,600
He also has a Twitter.
Follow us.

1220
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:21,960
Charlie has been here.
He made a suggestion he will do

1221
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,600
something.
Good.

1222
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,560
James will make a thumbnail.
Do you have anything to plug

1223
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,720
this week, Sam?
No.

1224
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:33,040
OK.