"Molodoy is a better AWPer than ZywOo", the WORST roster moves ever, and should Falcons bench TeSeS?

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Molla Deuter, Furia has proven
to be one of the best moves

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maybe of all time in Counter
Strike, but I'm here to talk to

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you and ask what is the worst
roster move in Counter Strike

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history?
Device to NIPI.

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Mean who's that worst for device
or NIPI?

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Yeah, well, good to hear.
Probably, but it it could have

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been everything.
It could have been awesome.

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It could have made never a
serious threat.

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And I just don't think Koreas
have recovered since You can,

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you can, you can notice all you
want, but I, I, I do think that

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had it worked out how they got
brought on a little bit earlier

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as well, that team could have
been really, really good.

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And we'll ever, we'll ever get
to see it because, because it

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died.
I do feel like the real answer

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is probably putting every move
cloud 9 made for about 18 months

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after winning the major onto a
dart board and just throwing a

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dart at it and seeing where you
land.

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Vanessa.
Because no.

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But there's so many though.
Yeah, there is, There are, there

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are some horrendous.
A little bit like like liquid

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kind of in the last, like when
they first lost a Liege, the

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sort perhaps.
You read my era.

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They were interesting.
Brain waking liquid shocks.

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Liquid shocks is bad.
Really.

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Bad You want to have a low key
bad one that really flies under

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the radar?
When outsiders won the major and

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then cut Norbert for Chiron,
like yeah they were OK.

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You you can say though they
didn't deserve to win the major.

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They were like 5th or 6th in the
world and they cut like Norbert

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for Chiron and were just rough
fish.

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And Norbert did have a pretty
good major as well, which is.

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Yeah, hear me out.
It's a good point.

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I'm.
Hearing.

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Phase signing Jacob.
It's not been good.

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It has not been good.
What about phase signing Beema?

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So that was pretty.
Good phase signing Cold zero I

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think.
Oh, Phase Cold 0.

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Yeah.
That that sucks a major there.

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Complexity.
Cold zero.

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Also bad.
Yeah, Complexity.

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JKS Complexity.
Poison where they just threw him

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under a bus and said he didn't
practice or paying him.

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Wow I I paying him that?
Fortune.

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His yeah, I think, you know, he
did 'cause that himself by not

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practicing.
Fanatic to Cosmo.

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Oh.
Topical downfall.

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Very topical fanatic.
Yes.

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There is a correct answer to
this, and that is I think this

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week it was confirmed Boros has
gone back to Gigi Howe.

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And this isn't necessarily the
worst move to Gigi Howe,

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although it's probably not
ideal.

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It's a terrible move for Boros,
who not long ago bought himself

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out of his contract to Gigi Howe
and has now crawled back to them

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with his tail between his legs.
He pulled.

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That out, whatever he had left
from his his Falcons money went

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into this buyout.
No, Jack.

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OK, maybe not every lad.
That went on luckers long ago.

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Like let's not fuck about it.
I was going to say what he

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earned from Falcons Falcons is a
drop in the ocean.

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Like like he could use 1% of his
Falcons money and that would be

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that would buy him out of this
contract 40 times.

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But like, do you think Gigi
Howard buying it much?

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Well, he went to Falcons, but he
went to Falcons after the Paris

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Major.
He probably was on an OK amount.

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He'd have been on money.
Yeah, yeah, but he was meant to

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be like.
It's more the fact that he's

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shit though.
Oh, he's fucking wank.

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Oh, he is terrible.
Because he was a Monty.

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He was a Monty.
Wasn't he a Paris right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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He's.
Already signed bro to replace.

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Freaky team was wrong.
They signed bro to replace a low

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key pretty good.
Yeah, this is the like the worst

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move all time from a player
perspective.

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I've never seen anything like
this.

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This is amazing.
He has he has spent money to to

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take a time off.
It's like having a player

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manager career on in FIFA, Yeah.
And this is the kind of jamming

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you do for yourself.
It's awful.

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Awesome.
Yeah, Well, well, I teased it in

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the intro a little bit with, you
know, that's enough about Boris,

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to be quite honest.
I want to talk about Gigi

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however again.
So we'll go back to one of the

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best Russ moves all time.
We'll talk about what happened

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at Blast Rivals in Hong Kong.
Chef Lapcock.

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Is Moladoy, Where do you put
Moladoy in terms of best players

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in the world?
Now he's.

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Definitely Rookie of the year.
He's definitely rookie of the

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year and he's almost certainly
the 4th best offer in the world.

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Question mark like he's I'm.
Going to do it from my head.

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He's.
Very.

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He's very.
Close, I think.

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I don't.
I don't spoil anything.

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OK, Jack, Jack, Jack, wait.
Go ahead.

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Do opera first.
Where do you put him in operas

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and then do players?
OK, so round about in the script

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I'm writing, I do say he's the
second best Orpa whose name is

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tighter than them, but he keeps
beating that of a guy, which he

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does so kind of better than
Monosy.

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That might also be because he
literally has the best stats of

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ORP versus ORP, yeah.
He does that too.

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He's he's a better orpa than
Zaibu.

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OK, because Zaibu is kind of
hybrid, right?

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I would say it's probably only
Monosy and Shira that that are

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that that can can compete with
him and and he's had the better

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of Monosy several times so.
I'm I'm not convinced he's a

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better open than Zoe.
He's more he OPS more than Zoe.

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OK.
I'm not convinced he's better

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than Zoe.
OK, so Elliot, if you think he's

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a better?
Open than Zoe, you think he's

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the best open in the world?
Have you been on Moladoy's page

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or TV profile at all before
asking this?

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Don't go on it.
No, no, I haven't.

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OK.
Because we did this before with

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a discussion with, I think it
was towards the Inshiro we were

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talking about.
Yeah.

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So past three months, all
matches, What's Moladoy's

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rating?
1.26. 1.17.

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Is that all?
Yeah, this is the thing, right?

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Moladoy is very good when he
when there's an orph in his

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hand, he's extremely dangerous.
OK, I I see the, I see the point

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you're making.
There is a slight danger of

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overrating him though,
especially when Fioria very

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heavily rely on getting an Orph
in his hands, and this is where

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you know he'll never be close to
Xywu as a player because Xywu is

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putting up consistently better
numbers with like an Orph half

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as often.
I think the fact.

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That he also is an excellent
rifler.

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Yeah, that's the thing.
Mollusy is also a better rifler.

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I think Molladoy is helped by
how flashy he is.

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I think he's helped by how many
or for your jewels he goes to

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like goes forward.
I think that helps on a

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narrative basis, but.
I think so.

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That is, that is also that is a
skill no other or perhaps or not

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no other or perhaps but other
Opas are struggling with at the

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moment.
And that's actually in some ways

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is more pertinent to put, like
if you can shut down Monosy and

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Zai Wu consistently.
I mean or.

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You are more effective.
I know Orphe.

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Orphe has.
Never really been that much of a

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thing like.
No, I agree, but he's not can

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shut them down.
But look, he did shut down

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Monosy quite a bit in the final.
He's honestly was not as good in

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the final as he was in the other
game.

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His his flashy confidence plays
is very reminiscent of prime

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simple.
It it is and there hasn't been

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an office since prime simple
that has the the BDE, should we

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say like that?
I don't think so.

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These kind of crazy players.
Can we can we go back a second?

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Yeah.
What do you mean?

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Monosy wasn't that good in the
final Elliot.

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He did win the NB.
Yeah, I know, but I didn't think

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he was as good in the final as
he was in the other.

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Game honestly went 91 and 74 and
had a 1.3 rate and he was the

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highest rated player in the
final.

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Yeah, but I don't know.
I watching it, I didn't think he

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was quite as impactful purely
because he just couldn't.

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I don't know, maybe I'm.
Maybe I'm.

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No, he was visibly very
impactful.

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I think he might have been half
asleep.

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It's possible.
One that one.

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Half away.
I think it's because the map I

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started watching was Nuke where
he was actually quite poor, but

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then after.
That I just.

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Had.
Yeah.

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And then after, after that, he
was.

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He was.
Like he had a, he had a 1, he

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had a 142 at the event as well.
Like that is free cash.

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So yeah, no, this is incredible.
Sorry.

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Yeah, I was thinking about Nuke.
Moloto wasn't in the highest

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rated players at the event.
Actually, he was not on top

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eight players.
And this is the thing about

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Molar Doy, right?
Is that because of his style?

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It's hard to go a game where he
doesn't look great.

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But Molloy didn't look great in
that Nuke game either.

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But he really did not look good
in that Nuke map.

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It was only training Mirage
where he actually came alive.

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And so whilst I think that maybe
because of that style, maybe you

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can put him in the top three
operas like it's.

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It's a style thing, right?
It's, it's what you.

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Yeah.
Yeah, he's still like.

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Winning.
It's hard to talk about when it

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comes to like players though,
right?

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Yeah, it's much harder because
you say like his skill, his main

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skill as an opera is being an
anti or, which is actually like

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a really old school thing.
I remember Allu used to be

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praised a lot for this.
It's like really old school and

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fallen as well, actually was
very.

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Good.
And the sort of like the combat

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open style, right, less of the
passive device Shiro open of

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like, you know, angle holding
and just hitting, hitting the

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two, but actually being bit
brawlier, a bit flashier, like

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you said.
Yeah, with somebody like Shiro,

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like I mean even like Mollusy,
who's sort of learnt to play

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this way with a little bit of
flashy, like they will always

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out rating him.
They will like Shiro will always

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have a higher rating every year
than Molad, but Shiro will also

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not have those.
Like he he won't be as explosive

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as Moladoy.
He he I don't think he would

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have won train on his own in the
way Moladoy not train.

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Sorry, Is it train?
Yeah, like Moladoy was like

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everywhere on train and I don't
think Shiro would have done it

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in quite the same way.
But then Shiro will win you

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other maps in other ways and
more consistently.

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But like, I don't know, like
there's a reason adding Moladoy

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to this team, obviously Moladoy
and Ukanda obviously adding

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Moladoy to this team completely
changed the way they play.

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Like there's just so much better
with him in the team because

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they needed, they needed
somebody to grab a game by the

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bollocks and just win it.
One of the intangible elements,

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though, is like you're saying,
right, the way they've had to

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restructure their team to to to
accommodate him has also brought

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the best out of Kiturao and
Yuri.

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They can play that like half
look style and their their

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closing potential.
It's it's just that it's on

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rounds where the impact's not
there from Ukanda, from Poland

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and and and and Mullaboi.
You still got like Kiturao's

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probably one of the best clubs
players in the world, right.

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He's up there with with Rob.
So I would say it's just it's

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just the team competition.
I think, you know, it's like it

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would be the best open on a team
that's not winning, right?

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Like like Falcons don't win.
But Monosy is obviously very,

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very good.
One of those not statistically

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as good as Monosy, but he's won
four out of the five last events

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he's played that Do you know
what I.

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Mean.
Yeah, which it's.

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It doesn't.
You have to ask the question.

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Yeah, you have to ask the
question, is Molladoy having

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more impact than his numbers
suggest or is just the team

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composition more important,
which I know Sam is going to

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agree with.
Yeah, I think it's definitely

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OK.
For what it's worth.

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I also think like I think it's
really easy to underrate furious

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rifle firepower, yes as well.
Like I know sometimes Ukandar

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will be further down the
scoreboard because he takes all

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of opening jewels that he might
lose or or whatever because he's

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just a naturally exceedingly
aggressive player.

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I think he takes like, what was
it like the second highest

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amount of opening jewels in the
top?

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I don't 10 or whatever.
I don't know.

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I don't know what it is now.
I know there was a point in time

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where he was averaging like 34%.
He takes years ago, he takes

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something like 30 or 31% now.
Yeah, which is insanely.

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High but like you kinderman,
some of his CT holds a

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ridiculous like the timings he
finds like even when he's doing

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like mid to late round
aggression as well.

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Like was it just on an E map?
Like there was one in the

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Chengdu final on the overpass CT
pistol where he was just, he was

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outside long and has just
decided to walk up it and then

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killed two or three from doing
that.

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Like there's all these
aggressive moves that you kinda

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makes at the moment.
He's just making better than

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anyone else.
And then Kaeser Arter and Yuri.

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Maybe there was a little doubt
about Yuri at a time.

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Definitely there was.
But like they are, he's.

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So much better now.
They are both exceptional

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riflers like especially Kaeser.
Ohio and Fallen as well is by no

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means sandbagging even when he's
like doing it intentionally to

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support the other team mates.
So I think when you do compare

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him to someone like Falcons, you
can look at Nico Kosuke kicks

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and and test sets.
How do you think it probably

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balances out?
Is Case all right on top five,

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top five right player?
Right now, yes.

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I think, I mean, I think at his
peak, yes as well.

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Like there was a point.
Yeah, yeah, at his feet.

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Do you remember like remember
before the Rio major where he

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was like he was legitimately
like one of the best players in

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the world and fury were awful
like yeah, Fury were like

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scraping like top 15 in the
world and que Serato was on like

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a 1.3 like he was absolutely
insane.

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Like Que Serato is incredible.
Yuri like like when Furio were

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like burst onto the scene, it
was Yuri Caserata that was Yuri

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Caserata.
Yuri Caserata.

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That was all anyone talked
about.

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Yuri went completely off the
boil for a long, long time.

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Now in this team, I think as as
Jack mentioned, like the the

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team structure has allowed Yuri
to have a little bit more space

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where like in the sort of
positions he wants and more

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passively and he's a completely
different player.

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He looks they make both twice as
good.

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Like extremity sides.
So they're basically playing the

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the identical role into the two
side, generally just on the

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other side, different side of
the map, which is, is is

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allowing them both to have the
same potential impact, right?

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Yeah, I think, I think it is
just part of the strength of

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this Fioria team Is that like
role for role?

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It might actually be the most,
what's the word?

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Well structured.
Yeah.

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Well, most well structured or
most well balanced?

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No, I want to say like
idealistically structured.

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Right.
If if, if that makes sense to

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you guys like you like do you
remember when that going back to

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that like Patsy Rainwaker,
horrid Liquid roster where it

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was like, OK, we've got 2
exceedingly aggressive players,

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2 exceedingly passive players
and then OC just like being

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somewhat shit in the middle of
it.

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Yeah, there's no part of that
with this team.

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If someone needs to go, they go.
If someone needs to chill, they

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chill.
And like, even Yukinda has these

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moments of like, all right, I'm
going to wait before I RIP this

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fucker's head off where I
actually do just think in that

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sense, like, at least in the way
that, you know, I view a fucking

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Counter Strike team should be
put together.

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Fury is just the perfect
realization of that.

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Which is weird because nobody
thought that when this team was

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made, right?
I think if you take if you took

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the the the names and the faces
away and you just had them as

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like blank avatars of how
they've hit the game, I think

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you're right, Sam, Like this is
how a lot of people would

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ideally strike, build a team.
Yeah, and I think that's, it

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both allows them to thrive and
shine, but it's also it, it also

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is the reason they do to a
degree as well, right.

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It gives them space to to
perform, but also helps them

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perform.
Well, I think one of the one of

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the more interesting parts about
that as well is I did a

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interview for Blast with Yukinda
just before Hong Kong.

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And he said then that, you know,
when they when they form the

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team, they base this new system
on vitality system, which makes

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sense because vitality
themselves are very structured

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and the roles are very defined
compared to a lot of the top

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teams we've seen in the past few
years.

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Like especially if you look at
Flames, it's like the shining

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example within that team.
But I think, you know, a lot of

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teams would have been doing that
and they just would have copied

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it.
What makes vitality work?

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Let's just do that.
I think Fury genuinely did

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improve on it because it you
know, I saw something earlier

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about how Apex averages like
each flash or whatever fuck it

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is.
He's he's the best of over stats

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over 3 seconds over 3 seconds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't.

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Remember what I saw it, it was
like 3.15 seconds enemies.

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Was it enemies 5 per round?
OK, yeah, cool.

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Fallen is still getting
impressive stats, but Fallen in

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this team is also more selfless
than Apex's in Vitality and I

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think another.
Thing depends on apex more

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getting getting.
Well having impact well this

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yeah, this is the thing right So
like if you look at Mirage the.

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Expectation is there, I should
say, yeah.

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If you look at Mirage CT side,
what is the what is the linchpin

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of that map on the CT side, a
connector who plays there on

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Vitality Apex?
And this is this is the problem

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right?
Apex, the anchoring, just apex

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so.
Isn't a bad con player, he's

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actually quite good because the
way he plays in con allows him

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to activate Rock Sai Wu and
Flames on the A site, but

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there's a big difference where I
can't remember exactly who plays

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there.
For fucking Fury, I imagine it's

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Kesarov.
I think it's on.

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I think it's your.
Kinder.

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I think it's your kinder for
Fury.

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It might be.
I think it for Kesarovo, I'm

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pretty sure is an A anchor.
Moladoy's obviously window.

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Think you're a shade.
Oh he is OK.

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I thought quesarato is usually
like the big site anchor.

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No, he did that.
For a time.

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Susan Con for mouse and various
con No, sorry, a donker's con,

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obviously, per.
But.

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Spirit.
So it's normally you're so top

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rifler, right?
Yeah, being Apex is interesting.

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So this is the thing.
Well, I mean there was a few

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Alexi there.
Alexi played con for a while.

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Chewie, I think also played, I
think Chewie did play con and

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mouse as well.
So the, the, you know, there's,

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there's players who have done
this, but how do you just think

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that makes such a big
difference?

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And I think it's probably
something Vitality might also

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benefit from in the long run
because, and I I think I put

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this in the deep dive, which
will be out a few hours after

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this podcast comes out.
I think I put it in there and I

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know it's definitely in
something that me and Jack have

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been working on.
The difference in Fallen and

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Apex's roles are staggering.
Like Fallen is sacrificing

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pretty much everything for the
team.

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They share 2 roles and I think
they're both.

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On the CT side though, not
Teesside, right?

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Yeah, sorry, she decide.
Yeah, Teesside.

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Yeah, it's even more extreme.
Yeah, yeah.

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And CT side, what was it?
It was overpass and ancient.

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Just because it's worth having.
They share B rotate on overpass

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on CT and B support on inferno.
So yeah, not anchoring but not

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exactly high impact spots
either.

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But compared to like Paul and
being a Bianca and and Apex

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being the con player on Mirage,
Apex on Nuke.

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Yeah.
He plays cave on ancient as well

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so.
Yeah, like this is, this is the

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thing.
Like I think when you look at

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that, you can see how Fury are
in really good form, but they

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are also a really, really good
team.

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And you can look at the
firepower of Falcons or like the

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the two players who actually
know how to shoot things on

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Spirit right now, though I seem
to remember tonight having a

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couple of good games in Hong
Kong.

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And like, the firepower on
Vitality, whatever.

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There's a lot of firepower on
this Fury team.

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And it's also just built
incredibly well.

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Like they are the number one
team in the world because they

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actually do deserve to be.
And yeah.

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I'd just like to say you you
used to be a big Ukinda hater,

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so it's nice to see you come
around to the the right side of

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history.
Well I hated him when he was

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shit on liquid right?
And also I hated watching him

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play.
Ukinda, your time on Liquid does

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not count.
Let's talk about something else.

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Let's talk about Falcons.
They were the other team in the

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grand final.
They can't win an event.

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No, but they are getting
dangerous for close now they

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are.
I think it's, it's all it, it

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will happen, right?
It's just, will it happen in

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Budapest?
Yeah, Like, yeah, I should have

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some reservations.
No, no, I'm disagreeing with

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you.
And I do have some reservations

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about the team, though.
Like I'm not.

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I'm just not sure, like Nico has
done the more passive things at

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points in his career.
Why are we like, I know someone

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has to do it when these are the
five players you have, but why

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are we bothering doing this with
Tess says.

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And I know he gets impact more
than his ratings suggests.

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Sometimes his ratings are not
good like.

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It's it's a real shame because I
really like Teta.

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I right.
I think Tetis is an absolutely

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fantastic counter strike player
and it's just such a shame to

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see him reduced to like being
like Sticko.

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Not even Sticko being tackled
well he.

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Actually, yeah, Taco.
Yeah, yeah, he's like, he's

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like, like he's reduced to Taco,
like he's everyone's bitch and

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it's so sad because he's so much
better than this, but.

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He likes being.
Bitch.

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He likes being like, good for
me, a semi, a semi bitch.

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He likes being like, you know,
he likes being a role player.

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He doesn't like being like under
the foot.

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He doesn't.
Feel like he likes being a bitch

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player but this is the wrong
type of bitch player.

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Yes, yeah, exactly.
That's what that's what I'm

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trying to say.
And it is ultimately just going

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to do him on the roster.
Like I think maybe I said it on

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the podcast last week, bit 2
Falcons in brackets or whoever

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else replaces Tessa's is going
to be the big roster move that

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happens in a month's time.
That will be the big move of the

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winter.
And it just it is a guarantee.

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And I think it's a guarantee
even if they win Budapest

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because Falcons at this point
are so ridiculously close and

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they could get over the line
with Tesses.

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So what can they do with someone
better than with Tesses?

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Yeah.
Like the best tesses in the

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world.
Are we deciding that that Tesses

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prefers soft Dom over over hard
hard Dom?

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Yeah.
Is that is that Astana?

448
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,080
He's on Falcons.
He prefers Fin Dom when like.

449
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:48,760
Thank you very much.
There's like. 15 teams that

450
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,200
Tessa's can like reasonably go
to anywhere there's.

451
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,120
At least half of that.
Honestly, there's loads of teams

452
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:59,280
that would be improved by Tessa.
Do you know the first one?

453
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,320
I'd say that would be improved.
Because I've got an idea in my

454
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840
head.
I have a feeling you could guess

455
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,000
who I would say phase.
Exactly what I was doing,

456
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,560
exactly what I was going to say,
Phase tesses.

457
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,400
I'm so on board.
I'm pretty sure Elliot, if we

458
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,240
were to go back to one of the
first podcasts we did together

459
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,720
this year, there will be a clip
of one of me or you or both of

460
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,320
us.
I don't know who brought it up

461
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,760
saying Tesses is the long term
rain replacement.

462
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:32,960
Interesting.
I don't.

463
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Remember saying confident One of
us would have said that, but I.

464
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Love Tessa.
So I, I would have been on

465
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,920
board.
I don't think I would have said

466
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,840
it, but I would have been on
board.

467
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,880
I I Maybe Tessa's.
Maybe I said it then because

468
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,000
like it's, you know, it's always
been obvious that like the the

469
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960
call they signed from heroic was
never going to survive.

470
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,720
So at some point Tessa's and
Dexter had to go.

471
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,880
Dexter's replacement was
obvious, Tessa's is less so.

472
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,280
And where do you where'd you put
testers?

473
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,880
After that, he's just rain.
Maybe he is too good.

474
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,000
He's just rain.
You're right.

475
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,320
But he I kind of like Nip as
well though.

476
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Nip, Goodall, get that shift.
If you've been off U Dicks and

477
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,080
have him him shift yeah I think.
That's yeah, I kind of like it.

478
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,320
I kind of like it, I'll be
honest.

479
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Like that is what I mean.
He's such a good plug and play

480
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,920
player.
But yeah.

481
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Like he's such a good plug and
play player.

482
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,440
You can put him on so many
teams.

483
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,960
I think he helps.
Like I think he helps, so he

484
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,120
helps Liquid, but that's not
really their problem.

485
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,840
But like obviously he helps
Heroic, he helps game of Legion.

486
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Like when 100 Thieves sign Gamer
Legion, they can just eventually

487
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,800
kick one of them and bring in
Tessa.

488
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,440
So then you've got Rain and
Tessa.

489
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,920
So he's got a nasty duo.
Like he obviously improves any

490
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,080
team outside of the top 20, even
if they have to convert to

491
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120
English.
Like like Fanatic, he'd be

492
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960
amazing.
Like he'd be so good on Fanatic.

493
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360
I would love to see a pack of
fucking tesses and blame.

494
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,680
FI do you know what do you know
what I actually want from?

495
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,600
I want Tesses to go to NA and
just farm like a 1.6 rating for

496
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,120
three months.
Like I just because he's he's

497
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,840
not going to allow just.
To have fun.

498
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,600
Yeah, yeah, he's not allowed.
He's been like so downtrodden on

499
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840
this team.
Go do the Magisk thing where you

500
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,040
just go to NA.
He's been playing, just farm an

501
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
insane rate.
Brilliant.

502
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Exactly.
He's been playing around with

503
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,800
some.
Freedom.

504
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,600
He's been playing her round
ball, he needs to go play some

505
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,800
halal ball in for MAT.
Soccer.

506
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,560
Yeah, for.
Sure bro went to *** and he just

507
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320
like he just farms racing out
there.

508
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,480
It's.
It's so it must be so.

509
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Fun.
This is what happens to

510
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600
basically any EU import to NA as
well.

511
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Yeah, except.
Unless he's fucking rubbish or

512
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,040
or or SUS but you just get to
just get to run around.

513
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880
How about, and I don't know who
you put him in for, but G2, Tess

514
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800
says.
I feel like he he, I feel like

515
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,480
he is kind of G2 EI don't know
who you put him in for but.

516
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,520
Well, you wouldn't like the
answer.

517
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,800
Elliot Yeah.
Why haven't?

518
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Pretend.
Pretend you didn't say that one.

519
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Right, hang on, hang on.
Maub's IGL era we.

520
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Move on.
Now let's talk about Nico.

521
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,240
He had a rough final, he had a
very rough final.

522
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400
He he he tends to more often
than not lately, which is.

523
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,800
So this is the thing, right?
Because I, I brought this up

524
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,680
because obviously there's the
whole choco thing and Thoren was

525
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,160
calling people like smooth
brained in cells or whatever.

526
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,920
It's a bad.
It's a bad name.

527
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,960
There's bad name.
But it's kind.

528
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Of Choco.
Choco is stupid.

529
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Like it is stupid.
There are a lot of finals he has

530
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,120
played exceptionally well in,
including a major final.

531
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,120
Don't.
They don't matter if you don't

532
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,600
come, if you don't win, that do.
They wasn't he like, no, no,

533
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,840
hang on, hang on.
Wasn't he?

534
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,840
Oh, you.
Oh, you mean the, the the one

535
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,960
where he choked the the eagle
shot?

536
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Yeah, that one.
OK, like I say, the cloud

537
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,080
normally was.
Terrible.

538
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,560
He played.
He played really well until the

539
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,280
round where it mattered, when
they could have won.

540
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,080
Yeah, he played really well
until he lost the game.

541
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,320
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more
rounds in a map of Counter

542
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Strike.
Two of them.

543
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Yeah, yeah.
But anyway, like, because, oh,

544
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120
he he didn't choke.
He only choked the one important

545
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,600
round.
Yeah, but he did choke.

546
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,640
But he did.
But he did.

547
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,120
He missed the Deagle shot that
he would hit 100 times out of

548
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,640
100 like normally.
Right, it's a nonsense point I.

549
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,880
Can't talk about.
Inevitably.

550
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,280
But anyway, it's always been a
bit of a stupid narrative until

551
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800
like maybe until he joined
Falcons.

552
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,560
Honestly, I don't think he's
fixed.

553
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,440
He's not been particularly good
in finals on Falcons, Like a

554
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,840
lot, actually.
A lot of important games on

555
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Falcons.
Nico is the one struggling.

556
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,760
It's almost like he's just not
got the bollocks for it, has he?

557
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,440
So I so I don't think he used to
be a massive choker.

558
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,400
He used to, but he like phase
did choke quite a few finals.

559
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
There's a reason like he wasn't
necessarily the one trick, but

560
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880
like phase did choke a lot of
finals.

561
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,840
He was poor in the last map of
the major final that they

562
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:24,280
obviously should have won.
And then like he now on Falcons

563
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,080
is starting to choke an
important game where he like, I

564
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,560
actually don't think he
necessarily did before, but his

565
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:35,400
teams often did, which obviously
the G2 major final is not his

566
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,640
fault.
But like when you're being

567
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,640
called a choker and you have
such a big moment like that

568
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,320
where you visibly like perform
worse than you would normally

569
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880
like he, that is a task he can
do.

570
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280
He.
Like if he did that 1000 times

571
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,200
at home, I don't think he'd ever
miss at home or in a group

572
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,200
stage.
But he did miss because it was a

573
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080
major fight.
Like, and I understand that that

574
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,480
would happen to a lot of
players.

575
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,480
But like, when you have that,
that sort of title and you do

576
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,280
something like that, it's like
it's going to haunt you.

577
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,240
Of course.
Yeah.

578
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Well then also.
Right, the major eluding him for

579
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
so long and I think we'll
probably get to this as well

580
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,520
during the major runner.
But being so close so many times

581
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,240
and never doing it.
That does stick with you.

582
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,120
No matter how good your bloody
sports therapist is or or how

583
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920
bulkan you are and how how
minimal your emotions are.

584
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,480
That does get to you.
And it does probably the way a

585
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,920
little bit because every major
he doesn't win, you know, he's

586
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,840
not going to have infinite
majors amid chances.

587
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Should I mean.
Well, I think this is the main

588
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:49,800
thing with with Nico at this
point as to why I actually think

589
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,280
Nico might not win a major until
he's an IGL Love it.

590
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,480
I think, I think, I think
something might change when he's

591
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,600
an IGL, but I think at this
point in his career, how his

592
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:10,000
career is right now, you know,
Boston and Antwerp, have I got

593
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719
that the right way around?
I always get Antwerp and

594
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,320
Stockholm the wrong way around.
And no Stockholm.

595
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Stockholm was Navi.
Yeah, Boston, Stockholm, Rio and

596
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,880
not being there.
Yeah.

597
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Paris and how that happened and
Austin and how that happened.

598
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,679
These are all things like, you
know, we we all said for years

599
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,600
about like the mental damage
Carrigan had from Boston.

600
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,760
And then, you know, hilariously,
they lost Inferno in Copenhagen,

601
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,679
kind of like somewhat reinforced
that.

602
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,120
But also it only reinforced that
if you decide you you want it to

603
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,080
because Carrigan has won a lot
since then.

604
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,400
Yeah, Carrier has won a major,
but we're.

605
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,960
We're talking about 5 separate
occasions that will be like

606
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,600
seriously mentally damaging.
And like I think that's why I

607
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,080
think the IGL thing because it's
like taking charge of it in a

608
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
different way.
He needs to.

609
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800
IGL he needs to be anchor his
way to a major.

610
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,920
He and he like this Falcon.
If literally if there was ever

611
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,960
ever A-Team Nico could be anchor
his way to a major.

612
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,160
It's a team with Monosy and
Kosuke and probably soon bit,

613
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040
but he actually could be out of
this team and it would be fine.

614
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Get rid of Kicksand and Tess
says and he could be out of this

615
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000
team, OK?
We've obviously spoken a lot

616
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,160
about bit on Falcons, but let's
say they were to get rid of

617
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,320
kicksand and he goes to our gel.
Who else?

618
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,760
Was that exertion?
Oh wait, no Falcons.

619
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,720
Hang on, so you.
Why wouldn't you do that, Jack?

620
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,440
Why wouldn't you do that?
Talk to me about geopolitics.

621
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,280
Let me think you've got you've
got Nico is in game leader.

622
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,640
I'm thinking he's probably more
like an Apex than a like entry.

623
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,560
So you probably need like a hard
entry guy, right?

624
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
You probably need a guy like
Tessa.

625
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,240
We've got Kaosuke do most of.
Israeli That's that's really

626
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:17,320
bad.
Yeah, I mean, Kaosuke can, but

627
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,560
like, I feel like he's probably
in a few years their star rifle

628
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,080
rather than their hard entry.
Why?

629
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Do you get like they get punk as
well?

630
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Yeah.
Yeah, fuck it, let's get Dunk.

631
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,640
Yeah, move on.
OK, Zai Wu zai Wu as a rifler.

632
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,560
Who else played at Rivals for us
to talk about?

633
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,160
Then we've done it.
Now we've got it.

634
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,360
Up in else matters, Yeah.
I mean, there's kind of a thing

635
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,560
else matters.
Like I don't want to talk about

636
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,800
pain or passion UA because I
just don't deserve to be in the.

637
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,760
Playoffs.
Yeah, those two teams.

638
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,400
Vitality we talked about last
week, they're a bit vitality.

639
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,800
Spirit was a great game.
That was a great game.

640
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,600
Filled with flaws, which kind of
reinforced what we've been

641
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,360
saying about both teams, but a
great game to watch because of

642
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,200
those flaws.
Let's take a break and we'll go

643
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,560
into something a little bit more
light hearted after this.

644
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,400
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645
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,240
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I do, I took a weekend off and I

646
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:10,000
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647
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,000
that'll be waterfall.
I got picked up by a top 20

648
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,480
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Right, that's why I've been

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671
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,840
podcast we're calling Go Days or
no days.

672
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,720
This is where our I know the
answers, but our 2 two other you

673
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,720
know my 2 Co hosts try and guess
whether these are real or fake

674
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,800
days tweets.
If you've not been up to date

675
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,480
with days, I don't necessarily
recommend it.

676
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,320
The guys, the guys.
Do you mean you don't recommend

677
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,280
it?
Yeah, fuck off.

678
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,520
This is how I go.
Depending on the day, this is

679
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,960
how I finish.
My day I go for.

680
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,320
OK OK but then they would know
all the answers.

681
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,320
They would ruin the fun.
First tweet from go days.

682
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,360
I'd like to say I made all these
screenshots so all the numbers

683
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640
at the bottom are the same so
don't try and read into those.

684
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040
I haven't slept while Joe Biden
is in the office.

685
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,160
AKA Sleepy Joe stealing all my
sleep in all caps.

686
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Is this a go dazed or a no
dazed?

687
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,320
When you say all the numbers,
will they all say 12:00 PM June

688
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,160
1st 2021?
Yes.

689
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880
OK, cool.
Because I created all of the

690
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,560
screenshots regardless of are
we?

691
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,800
Buzzing in or or how?
Do you want to do that?

692
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,160
You can, you can.
You can collude.

693
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,880
I don't really mind.
I think maybe we collude Jack.

694
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,160
I want to say.
I want to say that the AKA after

695
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,320
all of the incredible Dazed
Thoughts videos is.

696
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
I think that's a ruse.
I think that's being put there

697
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,000
to to make us think it's real.
I think this one is fake.

698
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,000
I've not seen many all caps
dazed tweets so I'm going to say

699
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,920
no dazed.
Yeah, no dazed.

700
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,040
Correct.
Come on.

701
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:17,680
This was a dickle creation.
We'll move on to #2 125916, the

702
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,840
numbers of my birthday.
This this.

703
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,400
I've seen this somewhere else.
I feel like this is also no days

704
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,080
and I don't want to give the
context as to why, but it also

705
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,400
could be could be go days.
Jack, I'm going to, I'm going to

706
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,200
leave this one up to you.
It would be too obvious to have

707
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,320
a no days and the go days so I'm
going to say no dazed again.

708
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Correct, it is no dazed.
This was also that to me screams

709
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Dickle as soon as I read that.
Yeah, obviously Dickle.

710
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,320
This one.
This is go dazed.

711
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
I've seen this one I'm.
Pretty sure final bosses joined

712
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,400
the game.
TikTok TikTok TikTok TikTok

713
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,600
TikTok.
This goes on forever. 99,999 X

714
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,240
Coca Coca combo.
GG Barbs.

715
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,400
Could I in like a proper Mortal
Kombat voice, Elliot?

716
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Could I just get you to read out
that that line before GG barbs

717
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,000
again?
I just, I just want to hear it.

718
00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:30,640
99 thou 99,999 X combo.
Yeah, that was that was good.

719
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,800
That's a go days that that is a
go days correctly a three for

720
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:41,480
three so far 1 #4 how to
activate good supercomputer plus

721
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,360
hang on 72,375,678 tempo in the
mind

722
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:53,280
11111111111111111111111111111
open good supercomputer.

723
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120
I will say credit the dickle
because they've all seemed,

724
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,720
which is why I asked him.
But if I.

725
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,000
Asked.
Oh no, You asked Elliot.

726
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,840
I asked Dickle.
If I asked ChatGPT, I sent him

727
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,080
dazed Twitter and said generate
me some tweets from this

728
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080
account.
This is how they could look.

729
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,680
So, so by that I mean it's very,
it's very close.

730
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,400
I think I just feel like this
one's a no dazed honestly.

731
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,120
But it's on brand, right?
You can see how it could be.

732
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Yeah, but it's also very on
brand for Dickel.

733
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,200
I think for viewers and
listeners, Dickel, former social

734
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,200
manager for TLDR, it's quite.
And general mental case.

735
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,160
General menace to those around
him.

736
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Does share some interest I'm.
Not sure he has a similar level

737
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,800
of mental.
Fortune.

738
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,280
He enjoys salsa dancing and
super computers, apparently.

739
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,520
I'm if you're saying I'm
confident I'll also.

740
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,560
I just really feel like this
one's a no dazed.

741
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:09,440
Yeah, honestly, like.
Dragon's Den.

742
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,440
Yeah, fake, fake, fake is what
they call called it.

743
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,440
It is a no dazed.
Oh my God. #5 Now I didn't know

744
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,360
quite how to make this one into
the screenshot so it's delete,

745
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,600
delete.
And then there were there was a

746
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,520
video of him talk to the camera
saying no I can't and I won't I

747
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,760
won't delete it all.
I can't do it anymore.

748
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,600
He's done a lot of videos with
him saying delete.

749
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:44,800
This in that in that case I'm
just going to go go days based

750
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:51,160
off the context.
It's either it's, you know, it's

751
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,280
a good fake, it's a genuine fake
or, or real.

752
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,280
And, and honestly, I'm not that
expensive, so I, I can't tell

753
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,920
the difference.
So I'll go go dazed.

754
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,080
It is a genuine fake.
It is a fake.

755
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,560
Ha ha, what's it dickle again?
I wasn't sure exactly how to.

756
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560
I couldn't screenshot it with a
video because the video didn't

757
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,400
exist, but even if we did I
would probably have written it

758
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,480
like that anyway.
Final one number six.

759
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Once evil SC supercomputer has
Barbarians autonomy, they now

760
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,280
have control over physical
vessels.

761
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,880
They're evil supercomputer will
control their every action.

762
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,600
My theories, my opinions.
I will let UIA decide.

763
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,520
G64.
Go nose.

764
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,280
No questions, no nose.
Correct, but.

765
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Even different isn't that fucked
in the head?

766
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,440
I'm, I'm disappointed that we,
we couldn't get the clean sheet,

767
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:41,760
but you know.
Yeah.

768
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Yeah, yeah, it was difficult
because it was because it was

769
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,400
the the video curveball.
You guys are go dazed

770
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440
aficionados, it turns out.
I hope let's know how you got

771
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,920
your viewers I.
Hope your ears are cleansed

772
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,320
after that long, long chat about
whatever the hell we were.

773
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,080
Talking about that was good.
We need to do that again.

774
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,040
That was fun, that was fun.
But the problem is you spent.

775
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,560
You guys spent too long on.
Oh, what if we do?

776
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,160
What if we do it with Chris Jay?
Should we do it with Chris Jay

777
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,840
next or?
Sick Just.

778
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,920
Scary images.
Did they come from oboes

779
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,760
Twitter?
Or not.

780
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
Yeah, you could do it with a
bunch of pros, couldn't you?

781
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,840
We'll move on.
Then.

782
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,680
We've got a couple of other
small stories to talk about,

783
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:27,480
really before the end of this
podcast, because it's on screen.

784
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:33,880
We'll do this one first.
Silvio PGLCEO we at this hours

785
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,680
of several CS2 Tier One events
in 2026 won't take place as they

786
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,160
missed the deadline for
announcing the additional

787
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,880
details.
None of the Star Ladder CS2 Tier

788
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,840
One events in 2026 will take
place.

789
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,720
The same applies are two of the
three Fisher CS2 Tier One events

790
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,320
in 2026, Playground Four and
Playground Five.

791
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,840
So far, there has been no Star
Ladder announcement for any Tier

792
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,320
One event in 2027.
Which is interesting, right?

793
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,480
Considering producer Charlie if
you click on the next tab you

794
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,800
have open hours later Star
Ladder posted this.

795
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,840
Yeah.
I'm putting on my I love Rules

796
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,360
hat and doing a Sylvie Sylvie
Sylvie cosplay.

797
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,720
Just shut the hell up man.
It's it's all he does is tweet

798
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,800
about how everyone else is
rubbish and evil.

799
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,520
All he said is we pay people so
fast, which is good.

800
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,360
That's.
Great.

801
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,560
By the way, it's the next tweet
on his account.

802
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,760
But when that's your like, main
redeeming quality is that you

803
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,520
pay people money they're owed a
bit sooner than other people and

804
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,560
that everyone else, their events
are not happening.

805
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,720
Like you said it with full
chess, not that Starletter and

806
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:40,480
Fisher have not announced their
events yet.

807
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,680
Will they take place?
Question mark, which I would say

808
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,600
is a reasonable question.
He's declared that they're

809
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,640
they're not happening.
Yeah.

810
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Yeah.
So self-righteous, cringe and

811
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,880
bold.
Well this is my issue with it

812
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,960
right?
It's like why the fuck is he

813
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,560
doing that?
Like why why is he there just

814
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,040
making these statements about
over TOS like so.

815
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:15,280
So we discussed this in TLVR
staff channels during the week

816
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:21,600
and our our overlord was
speaking about, you know, ESL

817
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,000
monopolizing Counter Strike,
which just isn't true by the

818
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,680
way, and how the ESL.
Get ESL Monopoly from the ESL

819
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,960
shop the the board game.
Didn't know that was a thing.

820
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,960
Fantastic.
Yeah, and you know how ESL have

821
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,240
constantly undermined PGL or
some of the fucking bullshit?

822
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:46,840
That also isn't fucking true.
So what the fuck is that tweet?

823
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,400
Like why?
Why is that deemed to be

824
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,760
something acceptable?
Because this isn't acceptable.

825
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,720
By the way, this isn't someone
taking a photo of a fucking HLTV

826
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:02,360
award medal.
Which is perfectly fine to do by

827
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,880
the way, just to be clear.
Do you mean the CS2 news ENMD?

828
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,160
PII do, yes.
Yeah, that was so.

829
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,920
Sponsored by Dandon and and
whoever else I don't know.

830
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,080
Ben Doyle.
Yeah, I don't.

831
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,360
I don't know.
I don't know if you have

832
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,640
thoughts on this, Elliot, but I
don't mean Jack.

833
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,800
I don't.
I've spoke about it.

834
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Like I really don't think it's
OK that are a different like he

835
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,640
he is the CEO of PGL and he's
tweeting about Star ladder and

836
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,560
Fisher events not happening.
But that's.

837
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,040
Just.
Not OK.

838
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,560
There's no, there's no
communication.

839
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,160
I learned on that.
There is I I even before I had

840
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,040
very limited time to care about
like the insurance and outs of

841
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,000
Counter Strike.
There is there are a few things

842
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,680
I could not care about.
I couldn't care about in like

843
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,040
the different Huds that
different like companies use

844
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,560
that you should wind me up.
People talk about that.

845
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,680
I couldn't really give a shit.
About some of them are very ugly

846
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,000
though.
Yeah, I don't care.

847
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,760
I couldn't really give a shit
about tournament formats and I

848
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,160
absolutely 100% could not give a
shit about tournament organiser

849
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,760
drama.
I I just don't fucking care.

850
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,360
Just mind you fucking naked and
shut the the.

851
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:25,000
The bigger issue though is that
no other TO has a mouthpiece or

852
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,760
or a person right like like EFG
has Julie and Mark Winter right

853
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,600
They generally like Will.
Post things and ask questions.

854
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,720
What's his name?
Not the Polish fella.

855
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Carmack as well.
Yeah, we have.

856
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Carmack Yeah, yeah.
Like the people, but they're not

857
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,400
dunking on other T OS they'd
normally just like.

858
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,240
They they will only ever I'm
talking about.

859
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Questions or providing clarity
to press reasons and stuff,

860
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,360
right, which I think is it's
fine.

861
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,960
But again, they're not like
they're not like industry

862
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,200
figures in they are obviously in
their paramount to the scene,

863
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,520
but they're not their brand is
not what they do and also not

864
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,240
the CEOs.
They're like the product

865
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,400
managers of stuff, right where
it's like it's the the community

866
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,160
sentiment is like their direct
responsibility in a way, right?

867
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,840
This show is like, meant to be
like, you know, running the

868
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,040
whole business.
See what I'm talking?

869
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Shit.
Pooping everyone else and again

870
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,720
bring it up again, PGLS Bio is
innovative esports company which

871
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:30,560
I just think is like so
unimaginative, especially when

872
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,880
their broadcast hadn't developed
in the last two years since I

873
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
came back.
Sorry, I just let's say how how

874
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,320
ironic it is you're saying oh oh
this other T OS shouldn't be

875
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,480
shitting on each other while ESL
employees a little PGL on that

876
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,320
innovative go on move on.
But I'm not, you know.

877
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,240
Whatever.
You're the mouthpiece of the SL

878
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,680
now, I'm afraid I am.
I am.

879
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,440
We're.
Losing a lot of money, probably.

880
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
What that mouth do?
Let's move on to 100 Thieves.

881
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,440
Messioso has been named head of
CS Operations and he wants to

882
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,200
get the best possible players
that suit us.

883
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,720
I mean that is literally your
job that that is, if I had to

884
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:12,080
describe what a head of CS
operations has to do, it is get

885
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,680
the best possible players that
suit them.

886
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Yeah, obviously read.
VRS through books.

887
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:23,520
Obviously he then he then upset
NA fans or something.

888
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,440
They probably got upset their NA
fans are all pissed babies

889
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,480
because he was asked about, you
know, NA teams.

890
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,200
Because wild cards seem to be
blowing up again.

891
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Which is unsurprising because
that will.

892
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,200
They should get a player.
From show they should probably

893
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:40,960
get fuzzy.
I'm glad.

894
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,600
You agree with me because they
definitely should.

895
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Game engine core and fuzzy, and
that's a really good team.

896
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,360
Where you know where Messioso
basically said the to put words

897
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:56,440
into his mouth.
The NA region ain't shit and I'm

898
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,280
not going to prop them up when
they're bad.

899
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,600
Yeah, he said bye bitches as
soon as that call and he was

900
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,560
like thank fuck I'm going to do
all that dance bar anymore.

901
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,680
Yeah, basically and.
It's still processing the fuzzy

902
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,440
suggestion.
I can't believe Sam has agreed

903
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,760
that they should sign foesy.
How many authors are available

904
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,320
that, like we know for a fact,
can hang at Tier 1?

905
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,760
Ulzer, he could.
Hang his He could hang his nuts

906
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,360
on Wallace's chin.
Look, obviously he could, yes.

907
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,480
Yeah, I mean like.
Charlie, he can't hang at Tier

908
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,120
1.
He actually is just bad at Tier

909
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,320
1.
Like I'd quite like photo but.

910
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,720
The whole name of them.
Yeah, I mean, like, I'm putting

911
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,120
aside the fact that I like him
as a guy.

912
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,120
I.
Mean he'd still be like, he's

913
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,120
like, OK.
As an author.

914
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,520
He'd be like my fourth choice,
but he's safe.

915
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,680
I'm also sort of just sort of a
bit baffled boys Jack calling

916
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,160
them a really good team if they
signed the game a legion corps

917
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,880
and foes it.
But based on what you're?

918
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Getting rid of the the worst bit
of game, a legion, which is

919
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,080
their offer.
Yeah, but you are getting an

920
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,520
Orping upgrade.
Or opening upgrade you are and

921
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,080
then you've got rain.
Who's gonna have hands.

922
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,440
Probably be a decent idea.
And he played the game for like

923
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,560
57 years, so.
You've got a brand. 100 Thieves

924
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,880
aren't winning anything, but
it'll be a fun team.

925
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,680
It'll be a team I think people
will want to get behind.

926
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760
Yeah, but that's very different
to them being a really good

927
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,040
team.
Well, I guess it depends on what

928
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,360
you want to.
Call really good.

929
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,080
Which is what?
Right, OK.

930
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,680
All right, fine.
Yeah.

931
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,400
And they sell jerseys and, and,
you know, clothing, which is.

932
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,920
What?
Yeah, Remember that 100 Thieves

933
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,680
is a clothing brand.
Yeah.

934
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,720
Yeah, it's not an esports
organization, but I mean like, I

935
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,240
guess that's the relative term
of really good, isn't it?

936
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:48,840
Like if they're consistently
getting Tier 1 invites, are they

937
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,320
really good?
Probably.

938
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,720
Yeah, I mean fine, better than
RT.

939
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:57,880
When I hear really good team,
when I hear a really good team,

940
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,400
especially from one of you two,
I'm not thinking, Oh yeah, game

941
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,000
Allegiant with those.
And Speaking of ORP upgrades on

942
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,720
really good teams, OG signed
Cadian.

943
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Why?
Why did you do that?

944
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,400
Yeah, I mean, we talked about
them signing flammers.

945
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,640
We talked about them signing
flammers before, didn't we?

946
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,960
This was this was confirmed this
week that OG Kadia and I just.

947
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,040
It just is going to be bad,
isn't it?

948
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,680
So I I've been writing something
for a for a project that's not

949
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,640
yet live where I talked about
this.

950
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,640
And my sort of devil's advocate
argument was, so this OG team is

951
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,040
closer to the sort of teams that
Kaden has been good on than the

952
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,160
teams he's been bad on.
He's been really bad on teams

953
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,960
with big egos, big names like
players who aren't like

954
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,560
Malleable.
He was good on Rogue, he was

955
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,080
good on Heroic, where like they
didn't really have these sort of

956
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,240
stand out big names and he was
shit on North.

957
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,440
Until they developed egos and
stabbed him in the back.

958
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,360
Exactly right.
He was shit on North, shit on

959
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,320
Liquid, everyone shit on Liquid,
everyone shit on North,

960
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,200
whatever.
And he wasn't very good on

961
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,520
Australis but like OG Moore
resembles the teams he's

962
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,160
actually been good on.
What?

963
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,920
Was Caden on north?
Did I just forget that?

964
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Yeah, yeah, he was after basic
London after N nearly lost to

965
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,720
Rogue to qualify for the major.
Before heroic, OK, he was there

966
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,920
for.
Like yeah, yeah, yeah.

967
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,480
He replaced MSL for a bit and
then MSL came back.

968
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,240
And no, this was after MSL orped
so they needed an awe pyjel who

969
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:40,600
was dating it.
Wasn't he benched for a long

970
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,280
part of that year?
Quite possibly he wasn't very

971
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,560
good or not, but like, again,
nobody won.

972
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,280
That was my sort of devil's
advocate argument.

973
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,320
But the problem is that he just
isn't very good on CS2.

974
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,000
But he just cannot.
Yeah.

975
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,680
And he and he's like whole, his
whole system that he's good with

976
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:06,920
relies on him or thing.
Well, he's also playing in I

977
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,320
think Zai Wu and the amount that
other.

978
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Is better than.
Tier one offers actually off

979
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,840
shows that orping is maybe less
important in Tier 1 and gawping

980
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
is very important in Tier 2.
And three, well, you're not

981
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,080
getting flashed as much and
you're not having a Molotov

982
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,400
thrown at every angle.
You can fucking play.

983
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,560
It's it's.
Considerably more powerful.

984
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,160
We're finding more star player
orpers like Yamala Dois for

985
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,120
example, in these sort of TFT
teams and we are riflers because

986
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:38,200
they stand.
That way more as well.

987
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,720
OK but like you're saying orping
isn't as important in Tier 1 and

988
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:44,920
I know what you're saying
because I woo rifles a lot.

989
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,040
Modesty rifles a lot.
The top three orpers in the

990
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,160
world, let's say the top 4
orpers in the world are on the

991
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,000
first, second, third, and 6th
ranked team.

992
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,600
It's pretty important.
Is that because every team has

993
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,320
an author?
What do you mean?

994
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,320
OK, but there's not there's.
No team with like a like a

995
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,080
mediocre author who's.
Who's I don't think, I don't

996
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
think either of us are saying
that it it's not important.

997
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,840
You said it's not as important
as Tier 1 and I'm not sure

998
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,800
that's true.
I don't think it is as important

999
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,280
as tier one as it is at Tier 2.
I'm not to.

1000
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,120
Have a good author?
No, it's just every team needs

1001
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,760
to have a good author.
Yeah.

1002
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,040
And of course and of course,
right.

1003
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,040
And of course, the best teams
have the best operas like with

1004
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,200
OK.
Yeah, but so it's so it's still

1005
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280
incredibly important because you
need to have the best offer to

1006
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,520
be the.
Yes, but these two things can

1007
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,720
coexist, Elliot.
Yeah, but it's still incredibly

1008
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,600
important.
But didn't, yeah.

1009
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,560
So it was just as important.
As I said, it's not as important

1010
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,640
as Tier 2.
But it is demonstrably.

1011
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Really don't think it is.
Bless me, I don't meet in time.

1012
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,480
That's my I'm obviously having
an alleged reaction to this

1013
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,120
discussion, so I think we can
move.

1014
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,320
On like tier one teams, but tier
one teams build around rifle

1015
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,040
stars now more than you do orp
stars Let's.

1016
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,360
Just start building around porn.
Stars Tier 2 teams, Tier 2 teams

1017
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,760
don't do that because the ORP is
still so much stronger in Tier

1018
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,200
2.
It's wary 2 so our Tier 2

1019
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,560
walkers struggle when they go up
to tier.

1020
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:25,680
One.
That's why having.

1021
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,400
A good offer is more important.
Where are you calling Tier 2?

1022
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,520
The teams like generally outside
of the.

1023
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,200
Team 6.
Like out.

1024
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Like where do you cut that off?
Because I paint Tier 2.

1025
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:48,280
No, no.
I'd say 20 gentle mates and

1026
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,640
below or below gentle mates.
Yeah, it's somewhere.

1027
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,000
It's somewhere between 18 to 24.
OK.

1028
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,200
I mean, even then I'm not sure I
entirely agree.

1029
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Like you've still got teams like
M80 and not Bill round there or

1030
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,200
but Tyler would not bill round
there or B8 and not Bill round

1031
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,200
there or but fanatic and not
bill round there or but NIPR.

1032
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,120
Fair enough.
Yeah, boom.

1033
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Fanatic, don't pretend to know.
Yeah, Magnesia's is their best.

1034
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,120
Plan Fanatic puts a lot into
Jambo.

1035
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,720
Nick put a lot into Wrinkle.
But what I do, but they're also

1036
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,160
they're clearly built around
playing it.

1037
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,040
Like is that what I mean?
More is not.

1038
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Sure, that.
The point, The point where

1039
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,560
you're the point where you're
playing majority of your time in

1040
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:38,200
online games against the type of
opposition that me and you don't

1041
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,200
give a fuck to be able to name
in, right.

1042
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,000
Like I in a circle played an
event and did OK.

1043
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,920
And I still don't know what any
of the fuckers are because like

1044
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,760
they instantly go back out of my
brain when they're not at an

1045
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,080
event.
Yeah, like when you're in these

1046
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,440
type of games, you do get flash
less, you do get Molotov less.

1047
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,160
It's the reason why Nikka Dozi
is so good at that level and

1048
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,640
he's crap at Tier 1.
So it's more important to have

1049
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,640
someone who.
Can I think that's I think

1050
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,840
that's throats.
I think that's the I actually

1051
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,280
think it's less important then
because there's no flash bang.

1052
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,600
You don't actually need to be
any good.

1053
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,560
It's actually less important
smoothly.

1054
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,640
I can do it.
You can just just.

1055
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,080
Go you have to hit the shots if
it.

1056
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,880
Might think to or fix.
Do you think also it being more

1057
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,640
online it's here too has an
effect?

1058
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:30,800
Yeah, of course online does
benefit riflers because the

1059
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,160
extra.
Yeah, but then, but then I'm

1060
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,640
saying the difference in OPA
makes online, right?

1061
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,240
And OPA, who's good online?
You know the more than.

1062
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,240
Yeah, right.
Yeah.

1063
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,920
Yeah, you see what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.

1064
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,280
OK so who's OG spear?
Who are they going to get?

1065
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Because it's not Cypher,
apparently.

1066
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,440
Yeah, they're apparently
practicing.

1067
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,240
This is our last story of the
day.

1068
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,920
So we the cypher apparently was
practicing with OG which they

1069
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,360
tweeted out being like it was
nice to practice with you I

1070
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:03,120
guess after he joined 500 which
is Compass.

1071
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,000
How do we always end up talking
about this fucking team?

1072
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,560
What like this is?
The 3rd or 4th podcast we've

1073
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,440
done this on now.
Cipher man, I like you, but you

1074
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,000
are you do have a thing from the
deadest teams man, you are a

1075
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,520
proper necrophilia.
This is this is this is a

1076
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,320
fucking horrendous decision.
What are you doing?

1077
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,560
What are you?
I like but stop making decisions

1078
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,680
like this.
At least it's only on loan until

1079
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,200
the end of the season.
Yeah, but come on, I know.

1080
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,240
We all know what that means.
Well, the.

1081
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,720
Five hundreds of them.
Obviously 500 is a GAMBLING

1082
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,960
SITE, right?
Do they just have like mad

1083
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,040
money?
Oh right, does this team scream

1084
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,080
mad money to ascend?
Yeah, this is like they they

1085
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,840
they built Galacticos here.
The Galacticos 2016.

1086
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,880
Fuck, your last Cirque is their
orb.

1087
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,400
Oh, yeah, Tier 2 you need, you
need a great author in Tier 2.

1088
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,840
We've got fucking Cirque.
Galactico is what otherwise

1089
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,160
known as the players stuck in
circus orbit.

1090
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,680
What I'm saying is OG probably
have a better chance of being a

1091
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:14,240
good team, which which is said
with greater teeth while

1092
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,720
Kenton's there.
But if he's, if they, if father

1093
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,000
said yeah, play for three
months, we'll give you like, I

1094
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,400
don't know.
It's probably just Volt's,

1095
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,920
probably just steamed Christmas.
Do you remember how fun it was

1096
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,400
when we won the game?
Yeah, it's gone.

1097
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,520
Yeah, it's probably also that.
Did you play with campus before

1098
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,120
as well or what?
What weekend?

1099
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,960
I mean, probably he's been on
like every team.

1100
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,040
He's been on every dog shit team
you get.

1101
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Yeah, Yeah, he did.
You're right.

1102
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,160
Yeah.
So he's played with a couple of

1103
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,400
them before.
He's probably done his mates A

1104
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,320
favour.
He's probably playing for free.

1105
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,960
Yeah man, I like your Cypher.
This is this is poor.

1106
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,280
Please stop making moves.
It is good that they've managed

1107
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,280
to like 500 have managed to
recreate Patsy and Rainwaker.

1108
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,480
Goodbye, I tell you.
What is it?

1109
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,400
It's actually impressive to
create a team that is 78th

1110
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,840
ranked on the Valves ranking and
I've heard of all five of their

1111
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,520
player.
Do you know what I mean?

1112
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,120
Like they've created an
extremely bad team out of

1113
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,600
players I've heard.
That's maybe we'll do something,

1114
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:14,560
no.
What's the?

1115
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,880
Last I can go in, I've heard of
all five players.

1116
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:18,800
Yeah, like is there anyone
worse?

1117
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,920
Than this or I've actually heard
of them.

1118
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,800
X in a circle is 72.
That's like old 9 but with

1119
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,840
crowds.
Now we need to go past 500, OK?

1120
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,560
OK I've heard of all the GG how
players but I shouldn't that

1121
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,120
doesn't really count Metasport
Neilan is on a.

1122
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,760
Metasport or 82.
Hang on, hang on 93 We talked

1123
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,960
about this team before.
Birds from Sky Chaos, Captain

1124
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,280
Kirk and Bermalov.
OK.

1125
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,760
Nemesis O98 Nemesis.
I only know who they are.

1126
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,840
Well, like, yeah, this is the
thing.

1127
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,160
I only know who they are because
I follow Nemesis.

1128
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,480
I just like to say 9 Boom pro
and 95th in the world on Valve

1129
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,400
rankings and they've got Zorti,
Axel, Flamus and Shelfie.

1130
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,400
A what?
Yeah.

1131
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,760
That's your team.
That's like a lot of firepower

1132
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,720
for the team. 95th in the world.
I was here to say passionate

1133
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,440
about 10.
Still listed, yeah.

1134
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:20,800
Also on Valve, on Valve rankings
bigger 106th Yeah, so but I

1135
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,720
think yeah, no, it's it's
impressive to create a bad team

1136
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,320
where you've heard of all 5 of
that players, I felt.

1137
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Like, yeah, I think Amcal might
be the one because that that's

1138
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,720
their genuine ranking.
And I do, I have.

1139
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Amcal Oh no.

1140
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,920
Hotu Hotu alone.
Rooster Oh wait no, that's a

1141
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,240
different version of Hotu.
Fucking why is this the thing?

1142
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,200
Just yeah, remove the old
version.

1143
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,960
I've seen I've seen three back
clicks as well man fucking

1144
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,760
silly.
Oh you could.

1145
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,800
You could also cheat and pick an
impact roster.

1146
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,160
That is cheating.
I don't.

1147
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,560
I don't.
I don't condone that.

1148
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:55,120
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, yeah.

1149
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,240
Can't say fairer than that.
I mean, it's got to the point

1150
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,080
where we're, we're scrolling
down HLTV looking for bad teams.

1151
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,800
I think it's probably time we
wrap this thing up.

1152
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,640
Well, it's time to go.
No, don't do that again.

1153
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,560
I didn't like it.
Don't do that again.

1154
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,360
Wrap this thing up.
You got anything else to say?

1155
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,320
I don't.
I have, yeah.

1156
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,400
I wanted to have a closing
statement, but I'm not clever on

1157
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:25,800
asking Apple one, so yeah in.
The world.

1158
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,920
In the world of Counter Strike
perverts, right?

1159
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,120
You've got the stats, you've got
the soft on, then you've.

1160
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,040
Got the and roll the outro.
Sorry.

1161
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,480
Carry on, carry on.
Sorry, I had to.

1162
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,800
Do gangster Sir Cub.
Right.

1163
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,280
I've been Sam, he's been Elliot,
he's been Jack.

1164
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,080
Charlie's from some medicine.
James, from now we're passing

1165
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:50,880
off farewell.